What if you had a crystal ball that could help predict what is coming in 2021? Would it make your life or business easier to plan for and navigate? Of course it would.

We are joined again by our favorite full service oracle / astrologer, Jeanne Mozier to give us a preview of what’s still to come in 2020 and what we have to look forward to in 2021. Think of it as your weather forecast to help you prepare for what is to come.

Jeanne left this world on 26 November 2020, and we are extremely grateful for her friendship, wisdom, and the opportunity to bring you this podcast recording made just days before her passing. She was an amazing woman who left this world a much better place than she found it.

We invite you to learn more about Jeanne’s life at:


Visit: https://starwv.com/ for Jeanne’s blog and daily nuggets of wisdom.

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kathygruver: Hey everybody, welcome back to another episode of the fire earth podcast, I’m your co host Kathy Gruber.

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Jason Mefford: And I’m Jason Medford, and today we are lucky to have Jeannie Mo’s you’re back with us. God that your, your episodes are by far the biggest listen to episodes.

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star: Really

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Jason Mefford: Cool. I’m serious. Yeah, like by a long shot. So we are so excited to have you back. I think this is a third third time, right, because you know

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Jason Mefford: Was really kind of a crazy year we talked about that the end of last year that things were coming right so now let’s see what’s happening in 2021 and I’m hoping some better news for us. But hey, we just have to take what’s coming right

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kathygruver: We just recorded as it is.

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star: Exactly. I have been sort of characterizing

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star: As boring.

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Jason Mefford: That’s good, that’s good.

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star: Primarily because you know there aren’t unprecedented crises every moment.

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star: Every morning, you’d wake up saying, Oh, my God. And what’s going to happen today that never happened before in time. So that’s not going to be happening. However, a lot is happening because basically, we’re going to be building a whole new world in every sector of life.

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star: And I think it’s important to let people know that you know this all starts in less than four weeks. This starts the middle of December.

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star: And what we have is

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star: Saturn, which has been in Capricorn for the past year with a bunch of its buddies making life different. Hey, you might

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star: Making life very difficult and hard and limited on everybody else but Kathy.

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kathygruver: Qualify that I’m a Capricorn. So that’s why

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star: So there’s this huge shift and it’s Saturn comes together with Jupiter and Aquarius. It’s the closest those two they

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star: They tend to come together every 20 years and it’s really in us in astrological history of 5000 years. It’s the aspect that basically says power is shifting

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star: you’re handing off the rule, which of course is exactly what’s happening. Well this time it happens. The two planets come together. The closest they’ve been since 1623

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star: So what’s going on, it’s going to affect everything, but it’s very societal very political. And it’s really a total shift in attitudes.

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star: And that’s what makes it so exciting. It’s like, oh, all these issues we’re concerned about

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star: racial issues gender issues income equality issues all of those go away because this new force assumes all those things are in place.

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star: So there’s no controversy anymore. It’s like people’s attitudes are completely changed. So what we’re going to be seeing is this highly multicultural

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star: Multi racial multiracial multi gender everything being fluid all about equal among equals very a gal attarian and this is the attitude. It’s not just programs or proposals, it’s what people are thinking

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star: Most people

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star: In the ones who aren’t and the ones who find that a terrifying world are frankly out of luck. Time’s up. This is where we are. This is the beginning of the finale. That takes us to

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star: Which is sort of the key year in introducing the new age and it’s beginning, the middle of December. So that’s, I think, very exciting.

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star: There’s only one major aspect all year long between the planets and that’s basically says creative change versus destructive revolution.

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star: So I think all of us need to put all our energy behind the creative change. So let me talk and guess before I talk more about this Aquarian energy because it’s the driving force. I want to just sort of issue that caveat that says this is going to impact every sector of life.

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star: There are going to be new structures created in every sector and it’s planetary I mean this is just not just happening in the United States. It’s happening all over the place.

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star: I’m not going to talk about the planet, but you can extrapolate um so Aquarius. Let me talk about Aquarius. The first and probably most crucial fact of this a year is that it’s mental

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star: Like okay, people, all of you people who checked your brains at the door. Better go collect them, guys.

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star: Need it

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star: It’s mental. It’s about reintroducing science into the world.

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star: It’s about genius.

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star: You know, it’s about information. It’s about solving social problems through innovative thinking

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star: It’s just like, Oh, wow. Isn’t that difference

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Jason Mefford: Or some novel concepts write

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star: A novel. But everybody’s gonna be there. I mean, everybody who’s capable of being there to be there. So people are going to be functioning on this mental level.

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star: And this is going to impact all kinds of social forums. It’s and we are beginning actually what 2020 was about in in in the cosmic plan, which tends to be

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star: Tends to be in a way, very, very aquarium very impersonal. It’s like this is the program. And this is the way it’s going to be. And if your little toes get stepped on too bad.

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star: So this is all this old stuff had to get destroyed and the great beings, you know, and we talked about this at the end of 2019 that we weren’t going to recognize what was going to happen and what the future was

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star: So the great beings basically said, Hmm, well, all of our little hints don’t seem to be working.

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star: So we’re going to have to do something really dramatic to get this chunk out of the way and that’s what was and what it created. And it’s interesting. My sister will watch these demonstrations on TV and say, How come there’s always on these rocks around the to get to throat

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star: As like we go that’s the rubble.

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star: rubble of the forums that are being destroyed and you get to use them as rocks. But basically, the old stuff is gone, as we know, there’s probably not a segment of life in this country that hasn’t been shown to be failed.

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star: None of it works. So we get rid of it all and then we create these new structures and that’s what’s going to be happening all year long.

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star: Very much humanitarian very much people devoted to serving humanity, a real service oriented period of time.

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star: Everybody devoted and and I keep using that word everybody because that’s how it’s gonna work not going to be the individual. It’s going to be the group big group time

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star: And it’s about building a better world for tomorrow reformers revolutionaries.

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star: And one of the, one of the interesting things. One of probably the most destructive political I hesitate to call the philosophy, but attitude that cause so many of the problems is certainly in this past year is that

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star: We need less government, government needs to be smaller. Wow, that’s insane people we have an increasingly complicated world that you can’t run via Facebook posts, you know, it doesn’t have

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star: That you need a large functional structure to accomplish these things. Yes, it should be as competent as possible, yes, it should be as fair as possible but small is not the direction

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star: And one of the things about this Aquarian energy is requiring that the state expand to absorb these new ideas.

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star: And if it doesn’t, it explodes.

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star: Be no I’m not interested in the exploding part universal brotherhood. We’re going to talk a little bit about health because health because very crucial this year.

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star: Hates clannishness breaks down prejudices CS Lewis life as a whole. That’s what’s going to be happening a mental response to social needs. So creating systems that make

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star: intellectual sense that are innovative that are genius that are not reacting from some emotional base, even if an emotional base is about the highest

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star: Direction.

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star: So visionary telepathic

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star: It’s devoted to truth and understanding whether these are known truths, or unknown turns

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star: describing these truths for hearing them out intuitive flashes all of this stuff. These are seed people. This is a time of seed people have

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star: Excuse me, the new humanity. Now, interestingly enough, I know that the current

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star: Trend that people are talking about is, oh, everybody wants to move out of the cities move into the country lightest simpler Blab Blab blab. Well, that’s not where the Aquarian energy goes

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star: It wants to be in cities, it needs that natural rhythm. It needs the mechanical pieces. And so what we’re going to see

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star: Are the people who are the innovators, people who are very nice problems are not going to be doing it from some cottage at the edge of the lake where they don’t have Wi Fi.

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star: I’m sorry, that’s not it. We’re really entering into a very techno Craddick

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star: Culture so Aquarius very eccentric on orthodox on conventional expressively in the area of relationships and sexuality.

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star: Leave me

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star: All these people that think it’s weird that there’s, you know, who gender questions their heads are going to be really exploding because

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star: It is going to be where

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star: That’s going to be where everybody wants to be on the weird side and we’re definitely going to see it in fashion.

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star: Really love that part, it’s like, Okay. Um, so, there certainly are negatives to this and probably the most difficult one for people to absorb, although it’s interesting how you know we’ve been being prepared for this is the fact that this is not an intimate time. This is not a central time

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star: And here we are. We’ve been being program for the past year to, you know, do elbow bumps in the hallways, people who think hugging is going to come back into style.

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star: Know,

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star: It may not be the virus causing that issue. It’s going to be the Aquarian energy so that relationships.

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star: There I feel the worst for the cancers, all these cancers, who are very touchy feely who are very, you know, huggy who want to be as close to the other as they can.

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star: No.

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star: No, none of that none of that all year long. None of that there is a brief emotional period from the middle of May to the end of July. So I guess if people are out there planning weddings.

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star: And want to have some emotional energy in their marriage that’s the time to do it because otherwise, what you’re doing is having a relationship that is basically collegial let’s say in the world together. Let’s be humanitarian together and in many cases together means more than two.

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star: So this is our Aquarian energy

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star: And because Jupiter is there hanging out with Saturn for most of 2021 it’s even more so.

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star: Little more adventurous, a little more expansive

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star: But it’s all about being original and about being progressive and when I did my election talk

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kathygruver: It was so good.

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star: You know when I looked at all of this unfolding and I saw this tremendous wave of progressive energy. One of the things I’ve absorbed over my years of the historian IS YOU NEVER EVER HAVE A ruler who is not in tune with the times.

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star: And so I looked at and thought, well, you know, this is an easy call because none of these guys in power now are going to be in tune with a progressive time there was no reality there’s not enough time left on the planet for them to evolve into progressive beings.

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star: So that was an easy thing so progressive is really, really, the hallmark of the time and evolution. This is a time of evolution of human consciousness.

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star: There’s a great leap about to be taken. And one of the things that anybody can tell you who studies evolution is it’s pretty irresistible. You don’t get to say, Yeah, because I like being a fish. I’m not going to try to

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star: Walk now.

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star: To make that decision. I mean, you can stay a fish, but trust me, evolution is moving on with you.

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star: And the other interesting thing with Aquarius, and there’s no telling what this is going to do is that it’s an energy of mutation. So there are going to be people who make giant leaps. I mean, truly extraordinary leaps in this evolutionary process.

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star: So let me make a few predictions here.

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star: It’s

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star: Everything is very interconnected fashion and culture are very interconnected this year.

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star: Weird very weird look at your classic Kathy.

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star: You’re going to need to drag out all your weird stuff all of your time.

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star: All of your all of those things.

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star: That you are sort of afraid to wear over this past year.

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star: Weird

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kathygruver: Clearly you’re not seeing my trapeze pictures.

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star: Like okay she’s ready

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star: Very androgynous and this is going to really drive people crazy. It’s like

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star: Now, of course, what’s obvious with a lot of this is that there’s an age factor here and if

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star: You know, all of us are way beyond this is going to be impacted.

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star: Robotics are going to be very big. This year, and for the next several years. I mean, we’re moving in that direction in a number of economic sectors.

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star: So I have my robots planned. I want to robots and I want the one that needs hands to do things that’s going to look like a little baby panda and the one that doesn’t need hands is going to look like a penguins.

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star: Have these two little robots and one of them, hopefully can manage the technology.

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star: We may never get to speak to another human being on the phone. Again, we may all have to go through press wide as to

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star: Like, oh god, I can’t do this.

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star: But the scans. Their, their you know they’re there.

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star: And that’s where we’re going.

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star: Live yeah I talked about the gender issues people who are in rigid boxes really get washed away. So let me say I want to tell you the story of Hercules.

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star: The 12 labors of Hercules actually are astrological and so Hercules gets these 12 assignments and their evolutionary and each astrological sign has a different tasks.

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star: And Hercules evolves through the signs of the zodiac when he gets to Aquarius, which is pretty much the end. He’s very highly evolved.

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star: And the teacher says to him, okay, Hercules. Here’s your task, there’s this king who’s offering a huge reward if you will wash out his stables.

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star: And these were legendary stables, you know, full of junk and this king was, you know, hey, nobody is going to be able to do this.

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star: So Hercules goes and he ponders and he comes up with an innovative solution. He redirects a river through the stables washes everything away. The king says, Well, that’s not fair.

00:21:15.540 –> 00:21:16.860
star: You were supposed to shovel all that

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star: I’m not going to give you the reward. So Hercules being in his evolutionary stage that says my whole point is service to humanity shrugs his shoulders and turns away. So that’s what we’re going to be seeing a lot of that.

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star: Serving humanity. Whatever it takes, whether it’s a reward and not a reward. You know, it doesn’t really matter.

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star: So the people who are the shit in the stables who can’t change, they’re just going to be washed.

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star: So technically, technically, nature is definitely going to dominate everything

00:22:04.080 –> 00:22:09.510
star: Everyone’s gotten over this past year has gotten much more comfortable. I mean, look at us much

00:22:10.590 –> 00:22:24.960
star: With me Shane’s especially the young people and there’s going to be new forms exploding moment by moment. And again, the people who were feeling left out.

00:22:26.250 –> 00:22:30.870
star: Four years ago are really going to be feeling left out today.

00:22:32.550 –> 00:22:36.360
star: And I want to slide this into economics, because

00:22:37.530 –> 00:22:49.380
star: That’s what it is. If you’re looking for where you’re going, economically, this year, trust me. Do not try to reinvent do not try to return to your business model.

00:22:50.400 –> 00:23:00.540
star: None of the business models are going to work. They all have to be reinvented they all have to be restructured, they all need innovative thinking

00:23:02.280 –> 00:23:24.360
star: So, you know, we’ve there been so many things in 2020 that were really lessons and they were being presented to us as lessons and I remember reading early on about how all this movement to working from home in advance that whole notion by decades.

00:23:25.650 –> 00:23:39.630
star: Long would it have taken us to get to where we are today where people are comfortable working at home. And, of course, that in turn says, well, then you better step up your broadband kids.

00:23:39.990 –> 00:23:50.340
star: That’s a real issue here in West Virginia, you know, they’re living this fantasy that oh, everybody’s going to want to move to the country and moved to West Virginia, and it’s like

00:23:51.030 –> 00:24:01.380
star: Not if you don’t have good broadband kids. Let me tell you stop building damn roads that go nowhere start building a life.

00:24:02.730 –> 00:24:16.740
star: That’s what you’re going to need. So there are all kinds of ramifications to people working at from home, not the least of which are restaurants that live

00:24:17.250 –> 00:24:31.830
star: On the business of people who work in big office buildings, real estate. What do you do with those big office buildings, if they’re not filled with people anymore. And then it shifts to what do you need to be able to work from home.

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star: I had a conversation with a friend of mine who’s

00:24:38.100 –> 00:24:51.090
star: The county administrator in a nearby county in Pennsylvania. And she said, You know, I just don’t know what my next step is I’ve got my people working from home, you know what’s going to happen.

00:24:51.540 –> 00:25:03.600
star: So look, you don’t understand this is all about new management programs. This is a whole new attitude towards managing people towards supervising them.

00:25:04.050 –> 00:25:13.800
star: And the resistance is going to come very strongly from those middle managers who aren’t going to know what to do.

00:25:14.220 –> 00:25:32.790
star: They’re not going to have people down the hall that they could go poke their head in and say what your, what do you do it. They’re going to have to learn a whole new way of dealing with it. Whole new structures and that’s what this Aquarian energy is there to provide these new social

00:25:34.140 –> 00:25:37.680
star: Techniques these new structures.

00:25:40.110 –> 00:25:42.900
star: We look at, I talked about the robots.

00:25:44.190 –> 00:25:53.220
star: And of course in in industries like meatpacking we have now been proven to be deadly to humans.

00:25:54.270 –> 00:26:08.460
star: What do you do well you mechanized and then what do you do, what do you do with all of the people and that’s the big question. And of course, it’s really a psychological question.

00:26:10.050 –> 00:26:16.800
star: Because we’ve already proven. What can happen if you write everybody a check every week.

00:26:17.310 –> 00:26:26.160
star: You know they spend the money they keep the economy going. And they may be doing all kinds of remarkable other things with their time.

00:26:26.970 –> 00:26:46.350
star: So all of that is shifting and in my political reality right now. Andrew Yang is my big hero. And I think he’s absolutely right and universal basic income is the way to go. And you get rid of all these people go why they’re not working.

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star: It’s like, who cares.

00:26:50.700 –> 00:26:59.550
star: Really do you think some billionaire deserves to have 15 homes. What are you gonna do with it. Well, there’s all these homeless people now.

00:27:00.180 –> 00:27:07.830
star: There’s going to be that kind of redistribution is going to be that kind of an egalitarian ism those kinds of questions.

00:27:08.550 –> 00:27:25.320
star: So, you know, all of these industry sectors are going to have to be redeveloped and rethought and re invented. So there’s plenty of stuff out there for people to do. And my favorite. My favorite insight is

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star: Great, now we’re going to have to have a whole new system of behavioral issues around how you treat a robot.

00:27:35.820 –> 00:27:37.110
star: To kick your robots.

00:27:39.030 –> 00:27:43.080
star: Just like what do you do when you’re ready to kick the cat.

00:27:44.910 –> 00:27:48.510
star: So how do you treat your robot I

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Jason Mefford: Think we’d be having a conversation about

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Jason Mefford: How does he provide robots in the toy.

00:27:59.730 –> 00:28:00.930
star: Who deserves a robe.

00:28:04.050 –> 00:28:10.950
star: And there are so many other arenas where we have have learned things from

00:28:12.120 –> 00:28:14.040
star: From what we’ve just been through.

00:28:15.330 –> 00:28:21.210
star: Now, let me talk about health because this is I think the crucial sector and

00:28:22.560 –> 00:28:36.300
star: In 2021. So, of course, everybody’s question is, well, when is this virus going to be over there. Well, you know, guys. The virus was about teaching the lessons.

00:28:37.230 –> 00:28:52.380
star: So I think, you know, the timing is absolutely right. All of this new focus on mental solutions and science starts in the middle of December.

00:28:53.580 –> 00:28:59.880
star: That’s when you know they’re going to start distributing the vaccine. All of this is going to

00:29:01.020 –> 00:29:08.940
star: Take that issue basically off the table. And even though we’re gonna have all these conspiracy lunatics saying

00:29:10.110 –> 00:29:17.490
star: Actually, we got what I call like no no you don’t get it. We’re done. We learned those lessons.

00:29:18.960 –> 00:29:31.560
star: The health issue in 2021 that is going to real. I mean, first of all of course we have now learned that our healthcare system is totally wrong.

00:29:33.360 –> 00:29:47.310
star: It’s hard to even imagine how broken it was going to be. And all of these people who are heroes who have been working under these conditions. It’s unbelievable. Well,

00:29:47.820 –> 00:30:00.510
star: If we think the physical health system is broken the mental health system is really a disaster. And that’s the focus of 2021 is mental health.

00:30:01.050 –> 00:30:15.900
star: And I’m sure you know the work that you do. Kathy. You know how few mental health workers are out there and we’re facing an epidemic in several arenas.

00:30:17.460 –> 00:30:31.320
star: First of all, the Aquarian energy in general is a new kind of mental energy. It’s a newly evolved mental energy and humanity is really not quite ready for it.

00:30:32.670 –> 00:30:40.860
star: So there’s all these new structures that need to be created to help people channel this

00:30:41.160 –> 00:30:53.790
star: Energy if you know any aquariums. You know, in the stronger the aquarium, the better. They’ll tell you about this. They’ll tell you how their body sometimes feels like there’s electricity running through it.

00:30:54.660 –> 00:31:13.830
star: So there’s literally new mental structures that have to be created to address this Aquarian energy and they’re going to be people falling off the edges. No doubt about it. So that’s number one and energy work is going to be really crucial.

00:31:14.490 –> 00:31:23.400
star: And of course, if there’s one thing we should have learned in 2020 is that there are a lot of alternatives out there that

00:31:24.360 –> 00:31:34.740
star: You that weren’t explored and I couldn’t believe it. For the first time, but the first time in all of this.

00:31:35.670 –> 00:31:52.470
star: There was a segment on NBC News two nights ago that said, oh, you should be building your immune system, vitamin C, vitamin D and zinc. It’s like I’m sorry I didn’t, I didn’t post about that in March.

00:31:52.980 –> 00:31:54.150
kathygruver: Yeah, we

00:31:54.330 –> 00:31:56.760
kathygruver: Didn’t we didn’t we post about that 1982

00:31:56.880 –> 00:31:59.130
Jason Mefford: I mean, it’s like forever. Yeah.

00:31:59.460 –> 00:32:14.760
star: Of course, and it’s like, Oh, what an idea. And of course, one of the things we’ve learned in this period of time is how many people in this country are seriously unhealthy.

00:32:15.840 –> 00:32:25.680
star: And they have these underlying conditions they have you know they don’t eat right, they don’t exercise. They live in toxic environments.

00:32:27.060 –> 00:32:40.590
star: Okay DSC. The problem here. So, energy work acupuncture, any of those, those systems that move electrical force around are going to become really important

00:32:41.250 –> 00:32:56.790
star: Then there’s going to be the whole huge segment of dealing with trauma relief with the huge amount of stress that has been built up and not just in adults in kids.

00:32:58.170 –> 00:33:10.830
star: All of this has to be addressed. And then there are the very specific impact of people who had coded and what it does to your brain.

00:33:12.180 –> 00:33:18.660
star: Certainly, see that from Trump obviously completely away rotted out his brain.

00:33:19.740 –> 00:33:29.730
star: But they’re finding that there are these mental repercussions and all of that has to be dealt with. And then finally deprogramming

00:33:30.480 –> 00:33:51.510
star: All of these conspiracy lunatics these tremors, all of those people have to be deprogrammed so they can function in a real society again. So they’re not just obsessed and absorbed with this. Well, I’ll talk about Neptune in a minute. But this hall.

00:33:53.970 –> 00:33:54.750
star: In these

00:33:57.150 –> 00:34:13.410
star: demons, demons hacking human consciousness, we need to deal with that. So these are key areas in mental health that have to be dealt with. And there we need to explore different approaches.

00:34:14.760 –> 00:34:27.990
star: We need to develop mental healers and if anybody is looking for a growth opportunity in a an employment sector, a professional sector.

00:34:28.320 –> 00:34:47.340
star: It’s in mental health. Of course I’m not sure who’s going to be out there teaching these things. Fortunately, it’s a time where there are intuitive and invent of people who are going to be inventing whole new approaches.

00:34:49.830 –> 00:35:11.940
star: So with all of these issues in health, the one thing that has faded, as far as I can tell, is the burning question of who pays for it. It’s like, really, we have so many bigger problems than who’s paying for it.

00:35:12.960 –> 00:35:20.280
star: The problem is, what is the health care. They’re getting Why weren’t we talking about treatment 10 months ago.

00:35:21.930 –> 00:35:39.180
star: What is wrong with this system. So I think health and particularly mental health is going to be a very crucial issue over this next year, education, another system in shambles.

00:35:41.070 –> 00:35:57.720
star: And what have we learned, you know, what do we really know about what works and what doesn’t work about what kids need and what they don’t need about what happens with colleges and universities. I mean you know that that nobody has really been talking about that.

00:35:59.070 –> 00:36:12.510
star: And how much of that is about, you know what, what does somebody really need to learn in their basic education they need to learn to read. They need to learn critical thinking.

00:36:13.020 –> 00:36:26.610
star: And they need to learn how to turn on their machine and they need good Wi Fi. Everything else is like stand back let genius roll.

00:36:28.290 –> 00:36:44.010
star: And it’s interesting astrological there was a big shift in the cosmic reality in 1993 a huge shift and there were a number of books written at that period of time about

00:36:45.630 –> 00:37:08.100
star: Indigo Children souls that came in, well you know there. Now, the teachers there. Now, the parents, they’re now out there in the system and they have the equipment they have the evolutionary equipment to develop this new

00:37:09.240 –> 00:37:14.940
star: This new force. Um, okay. Do you want to talk briefly about politics.

00:37:15.600 –> 00:37:16.860
star: Yes. Okay.

00:37:18.060 –> 00:37:19.620
Jason Mefford: Tired of talking about no

00:37:20.580 –> 00:37:22.020
kathygruver: Well, she’s got really good news.

00:37:23.850 –> 00:37:34.530
star: It’s running into running a well you can see a list of all the things we’ve talked about what’s going to be obvious in the political world.

00:37:36.030 –> 00:37:56.130
star: And what’s going to happen. And one of the things of course is developing younger candidates. I mean both parties are a disaster. I don’t think we need to make a giant step into a multi party system that would really be crazy. We’d be counting votes constantly between elections.

00:37:57.180 –> 00:38:05.910
star: But I do think that we need to be thinking about recruiting and developing candidates. Anyway, of course, the burning quite well.

00:38:06.930 –> 00:38:16.230
star: It isn’t a burning question whether Joe Biden is going to be inaugurated in January, only in Donald Trump’s mind, of course, that’s going to happen.

00:38:16.710 –> 00:38:34.110
star: And he’s the right person, because not because he’s a genius thinker, not because he’s an innovative person, but because he’s the one person who can do what America needs right now, which is heal.

00:38:34.800 –> 00:38:50.340
star: The man is a healer. It’s amazing to look at his astrological chart. That’s why he’s here. That’s why they saved him until this period of time, he needs to heal America.

00:38:51.660 –> 00:39:05.640
star: And fortunately, he’s not an egomaniac so he’s going to be happy to surround himself with people who are smarter than him as opposed to the current and soon to be gone argument of the White House.

00:39:07.500 –> 00:39:14.790
star: So the inauguration. It’s an interesting period. It’s a very dramatic day

00:39:15.930 –> 00:39:26.250
star: You know this explosive energy that day and hopefully it just means a dramatic change and not any real life explosion.

00:39:27.090 –> 00:39:44.100
star: And it you know in my election talk, I talked about how extraordinarily connected with Kamala Harris has chart the inauguration chart is it’s like okay, obviously we know

00:39:44.700 –> 00:39:56.850
star: Who they were asked her, but I don’t see Biden’s not going to drop dead. He’s not going to be sent away for dementia. All that is this right wing crap.

00:39:58.770 –> 00:39:59.430
star: So,

00:40:01.170 –> 00:40:08.280
star: You know there are certainly some issues during the year, but nothing that can’t be dealt with.

00:40:09.300 –> 00:40:19.890
star: So what are the big questions, of course, somebody said to me, well, what about Georgia, what’s going to happen with that senate race. Oh god, you know, that’s for people. I have

00:40:22.770 –> 00:40:23.610
star: So I did.

00:40:24.840 –> 00:40:34.500
star: sucked it up and I said, All right, this is what I have to look very cursory look looking at the candidates astrology.

00:40:35.790 –> 00:40:43.080
star: I would call both races for the Democrats in general the day is about balance.

00:40:44.250 –> 00:40:59.070
star: It’s the end of this Mars and Aries period of confrontation, so you know everything seems to be moving in that direction. So that’s the call that I would make

00:40:59.790 –> 00:41:20.160
star: Based on what I saw with the candidates. I think that blessedly we’re going to have lots better things to worry about than politics and looking at both of the charts that deal with the US, the Declaration of Independence chart, which has a big impact in

00:41:21.840 –> 00:41:30.510
star: So it’s sort of like, Okay. Not quite yet. And the Constitution chart, both of them seem pretty home.

00:41:32.310 –> 00:41:34.170
star: Except in the economic arena.

00:41:35.490 –> 00:41:46.950
star: And how there is the there is an economic crisis, only because we’re shifting. We’re shifting from an old form to a new form.

00:41:47.430 –> 00:42:06.360
star: And that’s going to really cause some disruptions. But I think if people don’t hold on to those old dead forms, they’re going to be fine. It’s just going to move through. And we’re going to transform, which is what we really need to do

00:42:09.180 –> 00:42:09.630
star: All right.

00:42:11.160 –> 00:42:13.650
star: Let me talk about the devil.

00:42:15.600 –> 00:42:16.680
star: This is my favorite fun

00:42:16.890 –> 00:42:17.970
kathygruver: That’s a perfect way to end.

00:42:20.010 –> 00:42:22.650
star: There is a devil of their kids.

00:42:24.270 –> 00:42:25.290
star: Where’s my devil

00:42:26.700 –> 00:42:27.000
star: Devil.

00:42:28.230 –> 00:42:47.670
star: The devil, and it’s Neptune and it’s all of that energy of illusion and you said deception and the fake news. And all of that is frankly it’s it’s a mental issue.

00:42:48.840 –> 00:42:54.420
star: And I’m hoping this is this is sort of my my cosmic fantasy.

00:42:55.980 –> 00:43:09.870
star: Jupiter is moving into Pisces and I’m hoping that it elevates Pisces out of the delusion phase into the spiritual enlightenment phase.

00:43:10.320 –> 00:43:24.000
star: Because of that happens you know we’re in really good shape. And if it doesn’t happen. We’re going to continue to be dealing with hacking of human consciousness.

00:43:24.780 –> 00:43:37.290
star: Basically Neptune and particularly Neptune in Pisces. This is the end of a cycle that began in 1862 and it is so much the end of the cycle.

00:43:37.800 –> 00:43:45.120
star: But it’s has tremendous impact. I always thought it was like yeah this wishy washy planet who cares what

00:43:46.080 –> 00:44:03.300
star: I learned differently. And it’s beyond control. It’s beyond reason it’s in comprehensible to the logical mind. And that’s what people are having a lot of difficulty with this. They just can’t wrap their brains around

00:44:04.050 –> 00:44:17.820
star: Why are these people obsessed with these conspiracy theories and these idiocies and if basically it’s Neptune. It’s a cult. It’s what it has to be dealt with and

00:44:18.810 –> 00:44:44.250
star: Interestingly enough, one of the energies of Aquarius is a real empathy with mental disturbance. So it’s like you know Aquarius, and I was always weird, I can understand this is just one more weirdness and I will try to help these people along

00:44:45.600 –> 00:44:49.830
star: You know, mass madness. Everything is true. Nothing is true.

00:44:51.270 –> 00:45:02.400
star: The addiction issue doesn’t go away until 2025 even though it seems to have disappeared because nobody starting about it anymore. It’s not that it’s gone away.

00:45:03.240 –> 00:45:17.550
star: So it still has to be dealt with. And it’s very much Neptune in Pisces. It’s, you know, dissolving boundaries boundaries have continued to be dissolved behavioral boundaries.

00:45:19.260 –> 00:45:32.730
star: You know, the internet dissolves boundaries immigration dissolves boundaries, all these boundaries are still being dissolved. We’re just going to be in a position to solve the issues better

00:45:33.750 –> 00:45:38.580
star: Apt in is about glamorizing things and

00:45:39.810 –> 00:45:43.920
star: It’s interesting in some of the spiritual studies.

00:45:45.060 –> 00:45:53.460
star: A grammar is a real dangerous issue. People get it’s like they throw sparkles on everything.

00:45:54.750 –> 00:46:08.670
star: And they think, Oh, I’m so involved. This is a wonderful blah, blah, blah. It’s glamorizing it and that’s one of the things that has to be smashed up is the glamour of

00:46:09.270 –> 00:46:21.690
star: Whatever of of having inside information with these conspiracy theories. Oh, I know something you don’t know. Well, that’s because you’re making it up in your little pea brain that’s why

00:46:23.070 –> 00:46:32.940
star: And if there’s anything that is a perfect example of the dark side of Neptune in Pisces. It’s Q and on

00:46:33.750 –> 00:46:59.580
star: It’s like okay, it’s all about conspiracies. It’s about conspiracies lending and order to people’s lives and delusion needs to be cleared up on every side, not only the delusion that we’re going to go back to some simpler life which is truly a delusion, an idealized

00:47:00.840 –> 00:47:09.960
star: True, a gala Terry in know an idealized past. We’re not going to go back to an idealized past because they’ve never existed in the first place.

00:47:10.470 –> 00:47:27.960
star: But we’re also not going to go to any true egalitarian society where everything is held in common. Because if you are going to get to that place, you would have to transform the DNA of all of humanity.

00:47:30.990 –> 00:47:32.550
star: They just have it in them.

00:47:33.750 –> 00:47:35.280
star: It’s like okay

00:47:36.810 –> 00:47:42.090
star: So you know that’s Neptune. You know, there needs to find this balance.

00:47:43.650 –> 00:47:48.600
star: It can’t be just inspirational. It has to be practical as well.

00:47:51.330 –> 00:48:04.200
star: And of course, Neptune in Pisces is all about things being viral not only the health issues but viral thoughts and if you can see how damaging

00:48:04.920 –> 00:48:27.660
star: A physical virus can be. You can imagine how damaging a mental viruses, you know, or at least a psychic virus. So you know deprogramming the call says it is an important thing. Um, there are two other energies that are left over from 2020

00:48:28.920 –> 00:48:37.170
star: The most difficult one is Uranus in Taurus and because it’s like

00:48:38.520 –> 00:48:43.980
star: I’m sure people have noticed, sort of, that this year 2020

00:48:45.180 –> 00:48:50.640
star: Was filled with natural disasters. Well, that’s going to continue

00:48:51.690 –> 00:49:00.840
star: That’s going to continue for about another you know it all started that phase started in 2018 that’s going to continue again till 2025

00:49:02.670 –> 00:49:14.910
star: But because life is going to be calmer in many other ways we’re going to find it more noticeable in 2021 these natural disasters and Nina. I don’t need to tell anybody that

00:49:15.720 –> 00:49:35.790
star: If we’d had more hurricanes in this year than ever before hurricanes are going back and hitting the same place more than once dramatic ones we burned up most of the West Coast, there have been earthquakes happening in weird places all over this country well you know that continues.

00:49:38.070 –> 00:49:54.060
star: And other issues connected with your anus and Taurus homelessness. Another issue that sort of been swept under the rug. Meanwhile, the homeless population is growing by leaps and bounds.

00:49:54.570 –> 00:50:08.070
star: And it’s only going to get worse as people are addicted, or they try to solve this crisis. What do you do with people who aren’t having salaries, because that’s what universal basic income solve

00:50:09.600 –> 00:50:11.880
star: So that needs to happen.

00:50:14.190 –> 00:50:27.990
star: Your Addison Taurus actually is going to be a good player in the financial revolution because if things people have to work for their money as opposed to just speculating.

00:50:29.160 –> 00:50:37.110
star: It’s going to be a major player in the Green Revolution in climate change, because your Radisson Taurus is about the earth.

00:50:39.300 –> 00:51:03.360
star: And you know pipe it, it’s going to be keep challenging this Aquarian energy to say, well, you have to make it tangible. You can’t just have it in your head. It has to be real. But probably the biggest impact of Uranus and tourists and I talked about this last year is

00:51:04.530 –> 00:51:21.510
star: The tremendous elevation of independent women of women in power and I was looking looking at the list of the people that Joe Biden was putting in his inner circle and Baba, it’s like

00:51:22.050 –> 00:51:37.470
star: There’s a lot of women in this know he’s obviously figured it out and and I’m ready to say, Okay, I’m going to start a woman’s party. I don’t care what your partisan issues are, but I figure men have been at this for

00:51:38.160 –> 00:51:51.630
star: You know, millennia and look where we are, you know, they have done a not really good job. So I think it’s time for women to basically take over running the world.

00:51:53.340 –> 00:51:53.610
star: I

00:51:53.670 –> 00:51:54.540
kathygruver: Think that’s a great idea.

00:51:54.960 –> 00:51:56.520
star: Yeah and there’s, I mean,

00:51:58.410 –> 00:52:19.620
star: There’s a, there’s a lot of energy going in that direction. Pluto continues in Capricorn, but this time it’s working with Saturn in a better way. And the two need each other because there are still things that need to be demolished and transform and that’s what Pluto does

00:52:20.640 –> 00:52:22.680
star: Um, so, you know,

00:52:24.000 –> 00:52:25.230
star: What else you want to talk about

00:52:25.680 –> 00:52:28.470
kathygruver: Well, we should probably wrap it there because we’re pushing 55 minutes

00:52:28.680 –> 00:52:29.040

00:52:30.510 –> 00:52:32.340
kathygruver: No, I want to hear that I want to do this all day.

00:52:35.280 –> 00:52:36.150
star: Tomorrow. Tomorrow.

00:52:36.210 –> 00:52:38.700
kathygruver: I know, Jason, do you have anything specific that you want to

00:52:39.720 –> 00:52:48.300
Jason Mefford: Well, I think, I think it’s you know it’s interesting as you went through and kind of laid this out because like you said, it’s gonna be boring compared to 2020 but

00:52:48.480 –> 00:52:59.670
Jason Mefford: It’s going to be a lot of healing. A lot of time of healing hopefully of, you know, because again, like you said, you know, the mental health issue, we have not

00:53:00.750 –> 00:53:05.460
Jason Mefford: Recognized the impact this last year has on people.

00:53:06.960 –> 00:53:26.520
Jason Mefford: So the, you know, that’s still gotta kind of fall out at some point. And so, but I love that whole idea of you know more of the fluidity of life in all aspects and the more accepting and collegial, you know, feel because man, I’ve been wanting that for a long time.

00:53:27.540 –> 00:53:43.290
Jason Mefford: So it’s it’s it’s nice. I mean, it gives kind of hope. You know, if you will, for yeah there’s gonna be lots of changes, but they’re going to be good changes because we’re going to start focusing on some of the areas where we haven’t for a long time.

00:53:44.340 –> 00:53:48.450
Jason Mefford: You know, and so I mean, for me it’s it’s

00:53:50.010 –> 00:54:03.450
Jason Mefford: It’s a beautiful thing to look forward to, and especially as you were talking a little bit about some of the business things. It’s like, oh, that’s why I’ve been having these ideas for doing these other things. I guess I better go do them, you know,

00:54:06.300 –> 00:54:12.330
Jason Mefford: Because yeah, it’s so thank you. I mean, from my from my standpoint, you know, again, it’s like we could be here all day because I could just keep

00:54:12.330 –> 00:54:12.690
Jason Mefford: Asking

00:54:12.840 –> 00:54:21.660
Jason Mefford: Questions. Yeah, exactly. But I think part of it too, for me, is now to just go sit in some silence and actually try to process.

00:54:22.200 –> 00:54:39.000
Jason Mefford: What this means for me, right, because for each one of us is going to affect us a little bit differently because of our own you know facts and circumstances and relationships that we’re in. But yeah, it gives me a lot lot better hope for 2021

00:54:39.390 –> 00:54:50.940
kathygruver: Yeah, yeah, I agree with all that and when you said you know Joe Biden’s the healer in this that just, I mean, I almost teared up a little bit because it’s like, I just, I could feel that this entire time. Yes. Oh, yeah.

00:54:51.480 –> 00:54:52.860
Yeah, cool.

00:54:53.880 –> 00:54:54.120
star: Yeah.

00:54:55.080 –> 00:54:56.400
kathygruver: I can’t wait to hear the whole thing.

00:54:57.750 –> 00:55:00.090
kathygruver: I can’t. But we did 55 minutes and I wasn’t even the whole

00:55:02.370 –> 00:55:03.600
kathygruver: What’s happening with Capricorn.

00:55:04.080 –> 00:55:04.650

00:55:05.700 –> 00:55:08.520
Jason Mefford: You get, you get to go on the back for a little while. Okay.

00:55:09.330 –> 00:55:09.660

00:55:11.610 –> 00:55:13.650
star: Well, it was a good dress rehearsal.

00:55:14.610 –> 00:55:15.390
kathygruver: Yeah, exactly.

00:55:15.810 –> 00:55:17.370
star: So maybe doing

00:55:17.580 –> 00:55:28.590
kathygruver: So because you do this every year. And it’s, you know, we’re time traveling so by the time people listen to this, you’ll have done it live already. So where can they get the recording the CD, the MP3 however you’re doing it this year.

00:55:28.980 –> 00:55:32.580
star: Yeah, I’m doing an MP3 of this first

00:55:33.780 –> 00:55:52.890
star: 2021 talk and they should contact me directly at star at Star web.com and basically it’s going to cost $10 and I’m going to send them a send them an MP3 file. Beautiful.

00:55:53.490 –> 00:55:59.100
kathygruver: Yay, and I have listened to your this will probably be the fifth or sixth year that I’ve listened to your talk.

00:56:00.000 –> 00:56:04.320
kathygruver: And you’ve done readings array which I thought you were still doing that because I need you a

00:56:05.190 –> 00:56:12.450
kathygruver: Amazing, you know, and we appreciate having you I mean like Jason said you’re one of our most listened to shows and

00:56:13.110 –> 00:56:21.150
kathygruver: We love your approach for people, you know, I’ve had so many people say Lou astrology is BS and it’s whoo, whoo would do that. And I said, No, no, no, listen to God.

00:56:22.110 –> 00:56:32.160
kathygruver: Because you come at it from such a scientific perspective such an analytical perspective and and we appreciate that, you know, and we can also see the accuracy of the things you’re saying right

00:56:32.490 –> 00:56:33.720
star: It is scary.

00:56:35.790 –> 00:56:50.850
star: I do want to talk about one historical fact because only once in 5000 years have the planets lined up the way they are in 2021 and that’s a period from

00:56:53.790 –> 00:57:03.180
star: Well, there are several things that happened during that period. But I think the most crucial thing for this period were entering in terms of

00:57:04.260 –> 00:57:15.090
star: Things becoming more egalitarian. And I have a real issue with the how they described populism, you know, Trump is not a populace. Those people are not populists

00:57:16.410 –> 00:57:23.610
star: They’re willfully ignorant. It’s a whole different thing populism is really empowering the people

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star: Well, one of the things that happened that was truly a remarkable thing was that Martin Luther translated the Bible into German. It was the first time that this book that ruled the world was able to be read directly by the people. And that was an incredible revolution.

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star: That’s what hopefully is going to happen is putting power into the hands of the people so that they can see for themselves. Yeah.

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kathygruver: I love that. That’s so beautiful. What a great way to end.

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kathygruver: Everybody go to star at Star WV com or the MP3 GET THE ENTIRE YEAR. She goes through each individual sign so that you know kind of what’s happening with you personally business fashion, health, all that stuff. Jeannie. Oh my god, thank you so much for being here.

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star: Well, thank you guys for having me and my website star web.com is where I post every day at the day is going to be like Adam and also insights along the way as to the stars and the news.

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kathygruver: Yep. And she’s brilliant. She’s probably so I’m Kathy group or I can be reached at Kathy Gruber calm.

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Jason Mefford: And I’m Jason method I can be reached at Jason method calm. So, today was one of those episodes where you probably want to rewind and listen to, again, so

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Jason Mefford: You know, I know. I’m going to do that. And I’m going to be thinking about it. But, you know, lots of hope for 2021 which I think it’s a good thing for all of us. So just go out and make it the best that you can, and help heal.

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Jason Mefford: Yeah I know, help, help be one of the healers as well because that’s really kind of why we’re here.

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star: So starting with yourself.

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Jason Mefford: Starting with ourselves. Because if you think we got to start with herself. You’re right.

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Jason Mefford: So with that everybody will catch you on the next episode of the fire and earth podcast. See ya.

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star: Thank you guys. Bye.

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