From gifts, to love and family heritage, things start to get a little deep.
In today’s episode we share with you what kinds of things are taking up residence on our desks in this fifth installment of “What’s On Your Desk”!

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kathygruver: hey everybody, welcome to another episode of the fire and earth podcast, this is one of our special segments of what’s on your desk I am Kathy Gruber.

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Jason Mefford: And I am Jason medford and yeah Kathy we’re going to do another what’s on your desk or however we’re doing that right we’ve got fancy thing for it anyway so.

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Jason Mefford: This is just one of those fun episodes where we just randomly grab a couple of things off of our desk and just talk about why we have it here and kind of tie in a little bit of a lesson for it so Kathy ladies first you want to go first.

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kathygruver: Yes, so both of mine are about love.

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kathygruver: I don’t know why I just you know it’s nice to have memorabilia and you know we’ve talked about how you know you’ve got yoda and i’ve got.

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kathygruver: Mr miyagi and we’ve got things from you know that clients have given us and things like that this is this is purely about love, so this is a whole little display so this sits on my desk so.

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kathygruver: This I did a heart healthy lecture for American heart association and it was on valentine’s day, so I had everything at my booth for my speaking gig.

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kathygruver: That said, love and hearts, and this was a great little photo frame and so before I had this phenomenal boyfriend who I get to stare at every day.

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kathygruver: The card says, life is short break the rules forgive quickly kiss slowly love truly laugh uncontrollably and never regret anything that makes you smile.

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kathygruver: So it’s just one of those little messages of you know appreciating what’s around you staying present and making sure you have love in your life so that is my what’s on your desk part one for me.

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Jason Mefford: All right, well mine is not about love I just grabbed two random things first.

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Jason Mefford: we’re just kind of ran over the first one is this little coffee Cup.

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Jason Mefford: Oh, how cute oh it’s got my face on it, if you’re if you’re doing your exercise or something and you’re not watching the video.

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Jason Mefford: it’s actually the little logo tile for my jamming with Jason podcast, which is another podcast that I do, but I.

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Jason Mefford: On the other side of it, she has compliance podcast network, and then it has my my thing on it so so it was.

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Jason Mefford: around Christmas time you know you end up getting like Christmas cards from random people wanting to sell you insurance or whatever else.

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Jason Mefford: But I get I get this pretty big box, I mean it’s it’s like a bigger size box and I, and I look at it i’m like I wonder who this is from right, and then I opened it up and in this big box is this little coffee cup allowed but it’s it’s.

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Jason Mefford: The reason why i’m sharing this is, you know so much of the time I hate Christmas cards in general.

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Jason Mefford: Only because I don’t hate Christmas, but most of the time when we receive Christmas cards it’s like a stamped signature or something like I said from a business yeah nobody gave any thought to it, some some assistant just either literally like rubber stamped or they get there.

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Jason Mefford: They get it printed with their signatures and and they got sent out no message.

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Jason Mefford: No nothing right So when I got this you know name is Tom fox Tom fox run the compliance podcast network, which you know, is really exciting for people that are outside of compliance now.

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kathygruver: I can’t wait yeah you can’t wait to go right, but now he curates a lot of different.

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Jason Mefford: people’s podcasts and runs them on his stuff to that relate to compliance and so i’ve known him for a long time he’s like hey let me, let me syndicate jamming with Jason on our stuff too right.

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Jason Mefford: yeah so but, but the idea is it’s it’s a thoughtful gift.

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Jason Mefford: Right, he actually made it for me he made.

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Jason Mefford: He made special ones like this for everybody who is on an hour with him and he showed he shared a picture of all of them sitting out but.

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kathygruver: that’s Okay, you know.

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Jason Mefford: When you’re going to give a gift or acknowledge or do something like that try to make it thoughtful.

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Jason Mefford: Because it means.

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Jason Mefford: So much more when it’s that way, and like I said that’s why I usually hate Christmas cards because.

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Jason Mefford: there’s no thought in it i’d rather have you send me light and love right through through this through the spheres, then send me a Christmas card that you didn’t even think about me right so.

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kathygruver: yeah yours was so much deeper than mine.

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Jason Mefford: Is there anything deeper than love, though come on.

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kathygruver: No that’s true um sometimes it’s just about things that make you smile.

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kathygruver: yeah yeah cool so my second one also about love and what’s interesting is, these are the two that are like the most forward on my I have this sort of like modern version of a roll top desk.

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kathygruver: So there’s all these i’ve got the flat place where I put my computer and then all these shelves with my very organized capricorn each thing has its little slot.

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kathygruver: And then, on top of the desk I have all of my stuff, and these are the two things that are kind of the most forward, and this is actually very sweet, so this is my parents wedding picture.

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Jason Mefford: Oh wow.

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kathygruver: So that’s both sets of grandparents.

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kathygruver: And my mom and dad getting married, so my mom died when I was 18.

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kathygruver: She had a slow moving but aggressive enough cancer that after about nine years she ended up dying and my dad died gosh oh my God, I guess it’ll be three years this this year, which I can’t even believe that.

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kathygruver: But I have a huge connection to ancestor this idea that people.

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kathygruver: That were standing on the shoulders of all those people that have come before us even family, you know when we think about like the women’s movement and all the women that pushed and you know the gay rights all the people that pushed.

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kathygruver: I think that way about family too, and knowing that I have the genes trickle down of all of these people.

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kathygruver: My dad’s parents and my mom’s parents and I just occasionally look up and just kind of go.

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kathygruver: Thinking about that history and where I came from and how everything I am today on some level is a seed from all of those people, so I like to have that up there, and think about it and yeah every morning at 812 I talked to my dad so.

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kathygruver: yeah so there’s an estate logic kind of.

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Jason Mefford: know that and that’s great and it’s you know, too, because I can my mom was really into genealogy.

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Jason Mefford: And so, and so, she would tell me about you know the different people a lot a lot, a lot of people that had passed away so I didn’t know them here.

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Jason Mefford: But those stories and like you said it’s exactly that right it’s we’re standing on every little improvement every little thing that each generation makes you know actually in my family, you know the kids my my siblings were the first group.

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Jason Mefford: To actually go to college and only two out of five of us actually graduated from college, but we were the first generation to actually go to college right but it’s like all of those it’s the build up to it right my dad’s my dad and my mom were the first ones to graduate from high school.

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Jason Mefford: wow in their family everybody else it.

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Jason Mefford: Was fourth grade eighth grade you’re out because you’re working on the farm.

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Jason Mefford: yeah, so it is it’s it’s nice to remember that and i’m glad you get to talk to dad every day.

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kathygruver: yeah twice a 12 if I catch him if I don’t catch a 12 I don’t get to talk to them, can I i’m going to share something kind of weird and creepy because, why not.

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kathygruver: um so my address growing up was 812 when the Pennsylvania lottery started my dad started playing the lottery and he’s like I don’t know what number to play birthdays and you all that good thing, so he started playing 812 so that became sort of this like very iconic number.

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kathygruver: After he passed away, I noticed that every time I glanced at the clock, it was a 12.

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kathygruver: At the change that I was getting from the store was a 12 I would push pause on the video I was watching and there’d be 812 left it was just starting to get weird.

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kathygruver: And I would have this very strong sense that he was here, so I was like okay well every day twice a day 12 I get to talk to him if I if I happen to see if some days I miss him 813 i’m like ah.

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kathygruver: But the other morning I looked at the clock, and it was a 12 and I just felt this like.

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kathygruver: Not heaviness as an emotional like like negative thing but, just like this, like presence and I was like okay say oh hi Okay, and I started doing something I look i’m still 812 i’m like okay doing something I look up it’s silly 12 i’m like it should be like a 50 by now, how is it.

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kathygruver: Still, a 12 and then a Facebook memory popped up that it was the anniversary of my mom’s passing.

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kathygruver: I think it was my dad kind of going.

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kathygruver: Did you.

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kathygruver: Hello it’s an important date I never remember the date so it when it popped up, I went oh that’s why he was just sort of hovering about and going Hello.

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kathygruver: So yeah.

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kathygruver: Good story there’s a story.

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Jason Mefford: there’s a there’s a there’s a lot to well and the more that we.

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Jason Mefford: That we tune into some of that stuff right because there’s there’s no coincidences synchronicity is all around us all the time and and the more that we can tune in and try to figure out what is trying to tell us the better right and.

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kathygruver: So powerful as numbers are a big way for us to be able to do that.

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Jason Mefford: So yeah just if you’re interested maybe in the future we’ll talk more about numerology or something but yeah there’s plenty of stuff out there to to find on the Internet, if you’re interested about that, but there’s a lot to numbers as well.

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kathygruver: While your second guess.

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Jason Mefford: All right, my second death, so this is actually, this is a new, this is a new thing, because actually this last weekend I went up to joshua tree.

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Jason Mefford: National Park and went hiking and.

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Jason Mefford: it’s it’s it’s one of those where again i’m trying to get more in tune with kind of what’s going on and everything as well right, and so I needed to get back out into nature.

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Jason Mefford: You know embarrassingly enough it’s been kind of two years since I really have been out hiking and and doing what I love to do that way.

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Jason Mefford: So just said we’re we’re going out we’re doing it, so you know we get done with the first day, seven, eight miles.

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Jason Mefford: killer up hill it’s like you know i’m still out of shape so i’m kind of dying and we find we find these you know big rocks and that’s that’s what.

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Jason Mefford: hayden my my wife’s eldest son is like hey let’s go sit over there it’s like we’re already close to where we were thinking we were going to Camp anyway let’s just go sit down because we’re both really sore.

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Jason Mefford: So we sit down there’s kind of this clearing area with like a little rock formation around it so we’re we’re looking around trying to find a place off of the trail.

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Jason Mefford: Where we can set up camp because it’s all primitive camping there’s no camp space so you’ve got to try to find a.

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Jason Mefford: flat space far enough away from the trail right there’s little rules that kind of go along with it so so we’re walking around.

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Jason Mefford: This this this rocked in area and, and this is about four 430 so the sun is starting to go down a little bit there and i’m walking along and there’s a lot of different geological different colored rocks and other things that are out there.

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Jason Mefford: And so we’re looking around trying to find this good space for us to be able to camp for the night and my eye catches this twinkle of Orange.

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Jason Mefford: And so again, you know out there we’re in the desert there’s lots of browns there’s lots of gray’s there’s lots of blacks and I get this little twinkle of Orange and I kind of look over and my eye is pulled over to this little twinkling orange on the ground.

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Jason Mefford: And so Okay, you know we’re looking around there and decide Okay, well, we found a place on the other side of the trail where we ended up camping and the next morning I got up.

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Jason Mefford: And I was just sitting kind of in silence, you know waking up for the day and again the image of the twinkling rock was coming back to me so.

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Jason Mefford: It was cold I got up and walked around you know for a little bit trying to warm up and where did I walk I walked back to that same place again and I said okay where’s my twinkly rock and and found it so here it is.

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Jason Mefford: eyebrow it is.

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Jason Mefford: not exactly sure what it is, it looks kind of like some kind of a quartz but.

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Jason Mefford: it’s like a it’s not a rose quartz it’s almost like an orange T.

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Jason Mefford: yeah kind of feel to it so.

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kathygruver: that’s so cool.

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Jason Mefford: So it was speaking to me and so again i’m not advocating we’re not supposed to do this, you know National Park service don’t come after me you’re not supposed to take stuff out but.

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Jason Mefford: It felt like that this little rock was calling to me for some reasons so.

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kathygruver: yeah.

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Jason Mefford: it’s it’s now on my desk with.

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kathygruver: A.

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Jason Mefford: to remind me so.

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kathygruver: I love that well and it not only reminds you of that hike and that time with your family and that sort of escape away that reconnection with nature, but it also reminds us to look for opportunities.

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kathygruver: And that there’s symbols and reminders everywhere of things and I just I love finding stuff like that in the environment, whether it’s the perfect seashell or the oh it’s a 12 again, or you know it’s like I love the world’s reminders to be present for a moment.

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Jason Mefford: When I think that’s good so yeah so the lesson to write is look for those reminders and just start paying attention to more of them.

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Jason Mefford: yeah as you’re going through your life don’t be so busy that you’re that you’re forgetting everything else.

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Jason Mefford: Stop and smell the roses metaphorically right.

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kathygruver: I think that’s what they say yeah.

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Jason Mefford: So got with plants and animals, this time.

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Jason Mefford: Alright, so that’s what we got.

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kathygruver: cool that sounds great I can be reached at Kathy gruver calm.

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Jason Mefford: And I can be reached at Jason method calm so go out have a great rest of your week and we’ll catch you on the next episode of the fire and earth podcast so yeah.

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