Something that affects everyone, in one way or another is money. Today we discuss why certain people are having problems breaking through certain monetary thresholds, how much money is “enough” money,
and what kinds of energy surrounds money.

Since the universe loves numbers, naturally our currency can be affected by what kind of energy we are putting out from ourselves.

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Jason Mefford: Welcome to another episode of the fire and earth podcast i’m your co host Jason medford.

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Kathy Gruver: And I am Kathy gruver and today we thought we would talk about a subject that is, I think, affects everybody’s life affects everybody throughout the course of their life, it is money.

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Jason Mefford: My man my man.

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Jason Mefford: hey we’re both on the same place.

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Kathy Gruver: With a little catchphrase just.

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Kathy Gruver: In the background it’s either that one or the pink floyd bump bump bump bump bump.

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Jason Mefford: bump bump Monday is.

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Jason Mefford: The other.

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Kathy Gruver: yeah I don’t know the words that one so.

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Kathy Gruver: Anyway, we’re not doing a mute or musical episode, though we actually should do that at some point, but we before we got on the air we’re talking about sort of the energy of money and how.

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Kathy Gruver: Our perception of money and prosperity is shaped by how we’re raised by the messages that we got as a child, the messages that we got from.

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Kathy Gruver: Whether it’s employers or society at large, about how you view people with money, how you view money what you deserve in the universe, so we thought would be interesting to talk about that today.

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Jason Mefford: yeah cuz this is, this is one of those things that.

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Jason Mefford: You know I I know you and Kathy we’ve talked about this i’ve talked about it with a lot of other people as well that most of us have some money issues Okay, because we have, there is an energy around money.

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Jason Mefford: But usually we get taught things growing up right like.

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Jason Mefford: Oh, we don’t have money for that oh look at those you know nasty rich people you know there’s like there’s like both sides of it, you know, money is the root of all evil, you know there’s all of these kind of negative things around money.

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Jason Mefford: That we’re taught and that we start to believe right which, which is why again if you don’t have a good relationship with money you probably ain’t got no money.

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Kathy Gruver: yeah.

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Kathy Gruver: or not as much as you’d like.

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Kathy Gruver: You know, and I was a huge fan of susie arm and.

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Kathy Gruver: For a while and I used to watch her show, and one of the things she talked about was.

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Kathy Gruver: Do you respect money and she used the very physical example of you know, she said she was in a grocery store or something and the woman in front of her opened up her purse and there was just it was wadded up.

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Kathy Gruver: And it was just shoved in there, and she didn’t know how much she had, and she said just from the energetic perspective of respect.

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Kathy Gruver: I have my money nicely organized everything’s facing the right way, I treat it with respect and I thought that’s such an interesting thing I mean it sounds ridiculous who cares how you treat the physical money.

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Kathy Gruver: But if it’s something that is precious to you if it’s something that is valuable to you and i’m not saying that you know if you have a negative view about money you’re like I don’t think my precious know your your landlord does so.

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Kathy Gruver: But she had a really good point of just treating the actual physical money, with respect, I have a girlfriend who will not put her purse on the floor.

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Kathy Gruver: Like at a restaurant or something, because she believes that is disrespectful to.

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Kathy Gruver: Her prosperity and her money so she always either hangs it on the thing or she’ll put it on the Chair next to us, or you know she doesn’t want her personal the floor, and I was like that’s an interesting thing to you know, so we all have these.

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Kathy Gruver: sort of rituals around money, but those were just a couple that you know my friend susie arm and I know we have a lot of different ways we can go with us.

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Jason Mefford: yeah so which way do we want to go down right because, because I think what one thing that I learned.

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Jason Mefford: You know, to as we talk about money consciousness is.

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Jason Mefford: Money doesn’t come from hard work.

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Jason Mefford: that’s that’s what so many people say that’s another one that we tend to believe right well if you work harder work harder work harder then you’re going to have more money.

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Jason Mefford: Well, do all the people that work really hard, have a lot of money, no, in fact, a lot of the people that work the hardest get paid the least amount of money.

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Kathy Gruver: Right yeah.

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Jason Mefford: And so again, one thing that I was taught now usually have a picture, but but imagine that you’ve got two squares on a on a page of paper and in the one you ride work and then the other one you write money.

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Jason Mefford: work does not equal money, yes, money does come from work, but there is not a direct relationship between the amount of work that you do.

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Jason Mefford: And the money.

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Jason Mefford: That you make right, in fact I have worked very, very hard for some money other money.

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Jason Mefford: In a minute i’ve made as much as it took me like a week turn other money right so.

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Jason Mefford: Getting that kind of separated from a prosperity consciousness in your mind that money comes from the universe it doesn’t come from hard work.

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Jason Mefford: Yes, we have to work, we have to do things we have to provide service and value to other people, but money doesn’t come from the work is provided by the numbers.

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Kathy Gruver: that’s such a good point it’s so funny because when you said that my first I kind of rebelled against i’m like of course work leads to.

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Kathy Gruver: But you have a good point you know, the first keynote that I did that I got paid a full fee for I remember sitting at breakfast that they provided for me in the hotel that they provided for me after I got off the airplane that they provided for me, not the airplane the airlines.

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Jason Mefford: You know the day for like send a jet for me i’m not quite that kind of speaker and the woman came over she was so great to have you here, and she handed me my check, so I just wanted to give you this before.

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Kathy Gruver: You do your talk today and i’m sitting there having this great breakfast the waitress is amazing she brought me a picture of ice tea and i’m sitting there looking at this multi thousand dollar check.

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Kathy Gruver: To go do a 15 minute talk, which is my favorite thing in the world, I love it so much and I looked at that and went.

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Kathy Gruver: holy shit they’re paying me to do this, you know so you’re right it wasn’t I didn’t do 50 massages to make that amount of money they just they paid me that to do this thing that I love so so I get what you’re saying no I took me a second to to know.

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Jason Mefford: yeah yeah because.

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Jason Mefford: Because that’s why again it’s so so where i’ve one of the shifts that i’ve been making in my money consciousness, the energy around it is I serve people.

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Jason Mefford: And people pay me for me serving them.

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Jason Mefford: yeah there’s not a direct one to one relationship, you know it’s like there’s sometimes I might spend five hours, helping somebody.

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Jason Mefford: and earn a certain amount of money, or they pay me a certain amount of money right, but my serving that person he is helping energetically to where there’s other times that honestly I don’t do hardly anything you know, like I said it’s like.

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Jason Mefford: it’s like oh geez there’s money that I just found there I didn’t realize that somebody owed me for something that I.

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Jason Mefford: You know didn’t have to put in very much time for and so it’s you know, focusing on the serving and doing what we can do the money follows.

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Jason Mefford: yeah if you serve people if you create expansion in people’s lives if you help people, then you will get paid.

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Jason Mefford: yeah yeah and another another thing kind of from that right because, again, most of the time we consider.

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Jason Mefford: Money icky right and we hate to go ask for it or do things like that, but there is a balance in there must be a balance in the universe.

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Jason Mefford: Right, so if if I do something for you, then, to balance that you should do something for me right same thing if you do something for me, I do something for you.

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Jason Mefford: It doesn’t always have to be money but that just happens to be the medium of exchange in most of our countries right so so by us serving someone, you should receive some kind of offering from that person it’s again usually in our societies that comes in the form of money.

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Kathy Gruver: Right yeah.

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Jason Mefford: So you don’t have to feel icky about accepting money if you have been serving and helping people.

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Jason Mefford: to receive the money.

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Kathy Gruver: yeah.

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Jason Mefford: right if you go stick them up and take their money.

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Jason Mefford: totally wrong right, but if you’re providing service.

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Jason Mefford: or services or things.

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Jason Mefford: like that, then you are entitled right to to receive some form of compensation either money or otherwise.

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Kathy Gruver: I agree with you, and where I see a huge sticking point on this is first of all, a lot of us were raised that money is icky or we don’t have enough were raised in that place of lack which i’ll get to in a second, but because I came from the massage background.

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Kathy Gruver: I see so many people who are healers who don’t want to charge they don’t feel they should charge they feel like this is a gift and they’re starving.

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Kathy Gruver: They like they’re living on people’s couches because they will not charge for this thing that they’re providing it’s like but you had to pay for your table.

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Kathy Gruver: You have to pay for the lotion you have to pay for the sheets, you have to pay for your education, you have to pay for your rent you have to pay, you know, unless you’re.

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Kathy Gruver: Just wealthy or you have enough to live on, you need to have that exchange also people do not appreciate sometimes things that are given for free the times that I have discounted.

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Kathy Gruver: swear to God every time I discounted massively discounted a session for a client it’s been a nightmare they’ve not shown up they’ve been jerks.

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Kathy Gruver: they’ve not even given me the 20 bucks that they were expect, I mean they were just it’s been a horrible experience when I have discounted it for people who say they can’t afford my services.

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Kathy Gruver: Having Having said that, though, the first chiropractor that I went to it was my wedding day I was about to fly home to Pittsburgh my neck one out I sat in the chair and went, oh no and I literally hours later, I was getting on a plane to go get married.

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Kathy Gruver: I found a chiropractor in the phone book, it was down the street from my office, I had to walk I didn’t have a car.

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Kathy Gruver: I feel like huddled down, you know in modern in the modern city to beverly hills at this point watered down to this guy he adjusted me and I said how much do I owe you and he said $20.

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Kathy Gruver: And I said no, that can’t be your rate and he said caddy let me ask you this, he said, what do you do for a living, I said i’m an actor, but i’m working as a receptionist he goes Okay, do you have a lot of money.

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Kathy Gruver: And I was like taken aback by his direct us with that and I went no and he goes Okay, do you have health insurance.

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Kathy Gruver: I said no, he goes Okay, you told me you’re getting on a plane like today to get married right and I went yeah and he goes okay your rate is $20.

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Kathy Gruver: And until you tell me otherwise your rate will always be $20 he said I have incredibly wealthy patients that come in three times a week, who pay me exorbitant amounts of money.

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Kathy Gruver: so that I can charge you $20 that is your right until you tell me otherwise and i’m like.

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Kathy Gruver: Oh, my God like you know it was just the sweetest thing and I ended up seeing this man for years, I sent other patients to him, so it ended up being that exchange of.

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Kathy Gruver: The oldest residents this this given take of money and then, when I had health insurance, I remember walking in one day and showing him my card and going, you can charge you 50 now you know.

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Kathy Gruver: But that was our relationship and he just he had this understanding of.

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Kathy Gruver: That giving and maybe the given to me didn’t directly come back from me, but it was I gave to you, you give to somebody else who gave to someone else who get it carried it forward.

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Kathy Gruver: And I just I will I will never forget this man, because that was just such an incredible lesson and I realized that sometimes that generosity, it comes back to you yeah.

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Jason Mefford: Well, it does and that’s that’s why you know that’s a great example of you know, again, there is this reciprocity of life there’s one of the laws folks is the law of reciprocity okay it’s.

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Jason Mefford: it’s a cosmic law you don’t have to believe it but it’s real and it happens it Everybody talks about Karma guess what that’s the law of reciprocity okay.

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Jason Mefford: So, so when when you look at it, because exactly like you’re saying with that chiropractor.

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Jason Mefford: He had wealthy clients to them, it was nothing for them to probably come in drop hundreds or thousands of dollars, you know with him on a weekly basis.

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Jason Mefford: The fact that he was able to receive that from those people allowed the near chiropractor to be able to share or give that forward pay that forward, which is also the concept of general reciprocity to other people who are in need.

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Jason Mefford: Right.

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Jason Mefford: You know, if you want to save the world, you know you got to be wealthy to do that and you’ve got to have the resources to be able to.

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Jason Mefford: Help kind of makes it all around and so that’s a perfect example of you know, pay what you can he didn’t.

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Jason Mefford: It because this was the other, the other point where I wanted to go to because you were talking about sometimes light workers healers.

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Jason Mefford: They think Oh, you know I just this is my gift, I have to give it away for free, but the problem is if again if you give something freely, but the other person does not give back.

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Jason Mefford: They cannot receive.

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Jason Mefford: From the universe, there must be some exchange right, even if they’re like hey i’m going to buy a dinner next time or whatever.

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Jason Mefford: Even if it was only $1.

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Jason Mefford: Right, but that chiropractor you had to pay him something or give him something of value.

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Jason Mefford: For the service, he was providing for you to actually get the healing.

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Jason Mefford: yeah right that’s another thing that we that we tend to forget is.

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Jason Mefford: If we don’t charge people we’re actually hurting them because they’re not participating on their side of the exchange and so they don’t get the benefit.

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Kathy Gruver: yeah they don’t see the value in it well and, especially, I can never pronounce right you Su I who rediscovered reiki.

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Kathy Gruver: He found that when he was giving the reiki away, he would go back to these people later and find them back in this state of illness.

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Kathy Gruver: And he realized that if you give this away for free the people don’t see the value in it so it’s not as effective, so you know people get on deepak chopra and they call them like deep pocket show broad he so rich and.

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Kathy Gruver: Who cares he’s he’s helping people you know he’s not running a pyramid scheme he’s not running a Ponzi scheme he’s not stealing people’s money.

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Kathy Gruver: He is a teacher and a leader for so many people I don’t happen to resonate with them, but I don’t resent the fact that he has a lot of money same thing with eckart tolle a.

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Kathy Gruver: You know he’s admitted he’s like I love really fancy watches he goes I love spending money on really fancy watches them thinking, good for you you’re talking about presence and meditation and then you’re off buying you know, the latest Rolex I think that’s awesome that’s awesome.

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Jason Mefford: Well, and that kind of gets back into one of the other things is we’re talking about the energy of money right is that prosperity consciousness, you know you cannot be.

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Jason Mefford: On the one hand, you know getting all into a car, you know buying an expensive watch instead of doing something else and feel negative about how he chooses.

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Jason Mefford: to share or or roll his money forward right and if you’re feeling negative about that, then of course you know, are you going to be in that situation to receive Probably not.

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Jason Mefford: But let’s let’s take that as an example right because sometimes people say Oh, you know the rich people are buying rich cars and.

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Jason Mefford: And you know spending all this money on houses or you know $5,000 handbags, or whatever right oh that’s that’s a waste of money that’s not how you should be spending money well let’s stop and.

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Jason Mefford: And look at this because, again it’s a balance it’s a whole it’s a money is a flow in a flow out a flow in a flow out.

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Jason Mefford: Do you think somebody built that rich person’s House you know my dad was in the construction industry.

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Jason Mefford: You know, he was a general contractor I worked for many years in the construction industry i’m grateful for all the people that want to build mansions because it helped put food on the table for me right.

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Jason Mefford: As a kid because my father was able to earn money from that now.

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Jason Mefford: You know, and again it becomes this big cycle right, even if you take something like the watch somebody had to design the watch they probably got paid to design it.

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Jason Mefford: Somebody got paid to mine, the materials refined the metals, you know, make the different thing if you look at something like you know, a $10,000 Rolex watch let’s say.

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Jason Mefford: Think about the hundreds of people behind that who were also able to earn or provide for themselves and their families, because of that right.

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Jason Mefford: So, again it’s it’s it’s a it’s a flow in it’s a flow out, and so, if we’re afraid to flow out and to pay people or give people what they’re do for the services that they’re providing for us.

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Jason Mefford: Then we’re not abundance ran and the money energy gets blocked if we’re only worried about inflow and we’re not giving anything back.

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Jason Mefford: Then it’s a problem right and we’ve talked before about this on the podcast about you know, the fact of having employees or having other people like that that yes, the revenues that we bring in are able to then also support and flow back out to other people as well.

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Kathy Gruver: Absolutely it’s interesting so and I know we’re going to talk about this on a future episode, but I do something called mental bank which I learned from Dr campus at hmm, which is the hypnotherapy school I originally went to.

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Kathy Gruver: And it’s about prosperity and abundance and shifting your perspective on money and the example that he gives in the video when he teaches it is, and this is the original Dr CAP is not the current doctor visits his dad.

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Kathy Gruver: There was a guy that came to him for hypnosis and he could never make more than $18,000 a year.

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Kathy Gruver: Like, no matter what job he did he’d hit 18 and that was a seed get fired he get laid off as as far as he could go and investigating that further Dr campus realized.

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Kathy Gruver: That the guys Father never made more than $18,000 so the kid now the adult in his mind felt like that was as much as he could do.

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Kathy Gruver: And so, this mental bank, which is a phenomenal activity, I do it every night now helps you shift your focus on money helps you shift your perspective on abundance and I was teaching this technique to a bunch of massage therapists.

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Kathy Gruver: All millennia all millennials they have a very different perspective on money they have very different perspective on capitalism, many of the millennials that I know, and I was teaching them this thing, and the one girl goes okay well, but what happens then when you reach that goal.

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Kathy Gruver: In the mental bank and I said well you double it again, and she goes.

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Kathy Gruver: How much money do you need.

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Kathy Gruver: And i’m thinking oh my God no and I said, well, let me ask you this, I said how old, are you.

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Kathy Gruver: She said i’m 23 and I went okay cool I said, are you going to have school loans, she said no it’s okay.

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Kathy Gruver: I said, would you like to buy a house someday she goes yeah probably I said, do you want to get married and have kids she goes yeah, I think, so I said.

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Kathy Gruver: What your idea of what you need right now for money.

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Kathy Gruver: is going to be really different when you’re 40 and maybe you want to go back to school, maybe you want to put your kids through school, maybe you want to start a foundation.

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Kathy Gruver: Maybe you want to donate to a homeless shelter just because you at 23 or 22 or however old she was she didn’t think you know she thought that was just exorbitant well how much money do you possibly need So if you thinking wait.

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Kathy Gruver: Just.

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Kathy Gruver: wait a little bit you know, making money is not bad, making money is not a bad thing, and I see, I mean that was even sort of drilled in my head, you know my dad.

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Kathy Gruver: kind of resented rich people I had relatives who were very well off, but still continue to bitch and moan about how little money they had.

00:20:16.470 –> 00:20:18.180
Kathy Gruver: And that drove my dad crazy because he’s like.

00:20:18.540 –> 00:20:29.310
Kathy Gruver: You have triple the amount I do and you’re complaining about not having enough money you buy this big House you go on these trips How dare you complain about not having enough, and so I kind of grew up in that.

00:20:29.610 –> 00:20:36.570
Kathy Gruver: mentality of yo he didn’t want to be the bad guy he didn’t want to ask to have to ask for money, so I grew up in this very sort of unhealthy space.

00:20:37.350 –> 00:20:48.780
Kathy Gruver: about what being rich meant, and I remember when I bought my first brand new car I was so excited like I always gotten used cars, I bought my first brand new car I finished my PhD That was my reward right.

00:20:49.110 –> 00:20:54.210
Kathy Gruver: And I called my dad on the way to the dealership and i’m like oh my God i’m going to pick up the car he goes what you get so I got a.

00:20:54.270 –> 00:20:56.430
Kathy Gruver: toy route for he goes what year.

00:20:57.540 –> 00:21:10.500
Kathy Gruver: And I said this year, and he goes you’re getting a new car and I said yeah, and this was his response, now, this was coming from his hang ups had no reflection on me he goes oh must be nice to go out and buy a new car I can’t do that.

00:21:11.760 –> 00:21:20.970
Kathy Gruver: And I was like Oh, I am your grown daughter, and that was, I think the one time, he was an amazing man that was the one time in my life, where he said something like that, but I could tell it like.

00:21:21.360 –> 00:21:24.930
Kathy Gruver: He wasn’t sure what to do with the fact that I was probably making more money than him.

00:21:25.560 –> 00:21:30.420
Kathy Gruver: And so, he reacted with words in a way, he actually apologize later and told me how proud, he was of me.

00:21:30.750 –> 00:21:44.340
Kathy Gruver: But that was his they all must be nice to go buy a new car, you know because of his the way he was raised with money, so we can break that cycle, you can break that cycle, by doing things like mental bank working with the money therapist money coach just started to shift your perspective.

00:21:45.330 –> 00:21:47.700
Jason Mefford: yeah well and like you know you brought up with.

00:21:48.870 –> 00:22:04.770
Jason Mefford: kind of with your dad there but also you know, was a doctor campus it was talking before about that the client that couldn’t earn more than 18,000 a year, there are i’ve seen it in my life i’ve seen it in other people’s lives there are unconscious.

00:22:05.910 –> 00:22:19.290
Jason Mefford: Money blocks that we have we don’t know necessarily what what it is what’s causing it why it is, but again, if you notice something like I can’t make more than $18,000 a year.

00:22:19.980 –> 00:22:30.750
Jason Mefford: And if you’re not recognizing why you know, again, this is the time to probably reach out to somebody for some help because there’s something that is holding you back.

00:22:31.350 –> 00:22:40.950
Jason Mefford: And the fact that you don’t know what it is means you can’t help work through it as well right and so until you can actually identify.

00:22:41.940 –> 00:22:52.170
Jason Mefford: You know because I and it’s funny because there is kind of some of the synergy stuff that goes along with that, I remember one of the hardest years that I had financially.

00:22:53.340 –> 00:23:12.810
Jason Mefford: A few years ago I realized coming to the end of that year that the year that I had that was probably the most financially struggling for me was the same age that my father was when he had his most.

00:23:12.840 –> 00:23:14.760
Kathy Gruver: challenging year financially.

00:23:15.390 –> 00:23:20.070
Jason Mefford: wow so there was some energy carry over from that.

00:23:21.300 –> 00:23:25.710
Jason Mefford: I didn’t realize it till the end of the year and then it’s like you know kind of thing but.

00:23:26.070 –> 00:23:29.520
Jason Mefford: But that’s that’s why again, you know doing things like the mental bank.

00:23:30.060 –> 00:23:36.030
Jason Mefford: talking to people there are some really good people out there that actually do energy work.

00:23:37.350 –> 00:23:51.510
Jason Mefford: Related to this and helping you get through it again, this is one of those things where hypnosis other things like that can usually dig down and kind of get into some of this stuff and just help you release what’s been holding you back.

00:23:51.570 –> 00:23:54.840
Jason Mefford: yeah and it’s literally almost like the floodgates just opens up.

00:23:55.380 –> 00:24:07.560
Kathy Gruver: It does it really does and I found this with affirmations to you know if you are constantly saying things like oh i’m broke I can’t afford that I don’t have enough Okay, first of all is that true.

00:24:09.000 –> 00:24:10.650
Kathy Gruver: Because i’ve had coaching clients say.

00:24:11.070 –> 00:24:14.460
Kathy Gruver: i’m broke and i’m like really well how are you paying me today and they laugh.

00:24:15.000 –> 00:24:20.460
Kathy Gruver: And i’m like you own a home, you have a rental property, do you have money in the bank yeah Okay, are you broke.

00:24:20.790 –> 00:24:27.540
Kathy Gruver: No, but that’s this blanket statement we say so, if you find yourself saying things like that one check and see if it’s true because it’s Probably not.

00:24:28.290 –> 00:24:35.610
Kathy Gruver: If it is it’s a whole nother conversation but it’s probably not and then shift that to I am prosperous and abundant money flows freely to me.

00:24:35.910 –> 00:24:44.610
Kathy Gruver: The universe loves numbers, so I remember when I was in Hollywood I was affirming I am a i’m a working actor and then I went, oh no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

00:24:45.000 –> 00:24:53.490
Kathy Gruver: I know where i’m already working I need to be paid Okay, I am a paid working actor i’m a paid working actor that was my affirmation and I got my first paid job.

00:24:54.180 –> 00:25:00.840
Kathy Gruver: was like 40 bucks a day for 10 hours of work and I went like Fuck that up all right, I gotta be more specific.

00:25:01.230 –> 00:25:10.950
Kathy Gruver: You know, send a number say I because when I do my to my goals, every year, I said really specific numbers, this is what I want away this is how much I want to have in savings, I would have zero in debt.

00:25:11.280 –> 00:25:19.320
Kathy Gruver: This is how much money, I want to make these are, how many keynotes I want to do the universe loves numbers and if you don’t believe the number that you said you can cheat.

00:25:20.160 –> 00:25:34.470
Kathy Gruver: I love money I love making money I love making extra money so that I can enjoy myself I love making extra money, so I can help people around me I love having extra money, so I can have fun I love having a million dollars.

00:25:36.360 –> 00:25:46.290
Jason Mefford: Those are all great things and they’re all better things to say, to yourself and i’m broke or I can’t afford that right, I mean those are there there’s some certain terms like that I can’t afford that no.

00:25:46.980 –> 00:25:59.940
Jason Mefford: quit saying I can’t afford it, you can afford anything you really want right if you choose not to buy it right that’s different but don’t say I can’t afford that no I choose not to buy that now.

00:26:00.420 –> 00:26:09.630
Jason Mefford: or I choose not to buy that it’s not something that I want instead of saying I can’t afford it, you know as you were as you were talking about your affirmations, especially as an actor.

00:26:10.110 –> 00:26:18.630
Jason Mefford: I remember the story about Jim carrey I don’t know if you heard that one, where he was you know, he was here in La for a little while struggling struggling struggling.

00:26:19.170 –> 00:26:25.920
Jason Mefford: He drove his you know beat up car up on, I think it was probably mulholland drive or somewhere up there, and he was looking out over the city.

00:26:26.400 –> 00:26:39.720
Jason Mefford: And in decided that he was going to get paid $10 million for a film now you know, again as a struggling actor making 40 100 bucks a day it’s like $10 million is a big leap, but did he end up doing it yes.

00:26:39.720 –> 00:26:43.110
Jason Mefford: Because we’re off a check for $10 million, I believe, if I remember right.

00:26:43.590 –> 00:26:53.130
Jason Mefford: put it in his wallet and carried it around he got paid more than $10 million for for movies eventually folks oh you got one sitting there right there for you yeah yeah.

00:26:53.580 –> 00:26:55.230
Kathy Gruver: that’s been staying there since 2010.

00:26:56.460 –> 00:27:12.570
Jason Mefford: yep so you know again that’s one of those the universe does love numbers as well, and so you know again there’s and that’s just a couple of examples, but i’ve heard hundreds and hundreds of these kinds of examples of of what people have been able to do.

00:27:13.080 –> 00:27:27.090
Kathy Gruver: yeah and affirmations work I did one for a while, was I expect I accept money from unexpected sources, because I didn’t need to know where it came from I just need to know it was coming, and that I deserved it and within days I got hired to do expert witness work.

00:27:27.990 –> 00:27:29.160
Kathy Gruver: I didn’t even know that was a thing.

00:27:29.310 –> 00:27:36.330
Kathy Gruver: They were looking for a massage therapist and i’ve worked with this company about a dozen times i’ve kept I kept one guy at a jail i’ve helped people get.

00:27:36.630 –> 00:27:44.430
Kathy Gruver: The compensation for horrible injuries i’ve gotten horrible massage therapists out of the business I protected another massage therapists who are wrongly accused of stuff.

00:27:44.760 –> 00:27:56.640
Kathy Gruver: And i’ve made a really good living from not a whole living but it’s like that’s been an amazing amount of extra money after I did the affirmation, I accept money from unexpected sources literally within days of me starting that affirmation that happened.

00:27:57.810 –> 00:28:02.910
Kathy Gruver: I definitely wouldn’t have expected that I wouldn’t have thought to seek it out, because I didn’t know they needed a massage therapist for such a thing.

00:28:03.330 –> 00:28:10.650
Kathy Gruver: But this stuff works, so it just shifts your it’s all again like we talked about so much it’s all about shifting your perspective, looking at things a different way.

00:28:11.130 –> 00:28:11.490

00:28:13.080 –> 00:28:21.090
Jason Mefford: It is so there is energy with money so again, you know we talked about lots of little things, but even you know again like.

00:28:21.480 –> 00:28:30.540
Jason Mefford: The Suze orman thing at the beginning of physically, you know, taking care of your money doing what it is i’m one of those people i’m very anal about my money, I have my.

00:28:31.650 –> 00:28:41.250
Jason Mefford: Certain thing in my wallet everything is folded it’s the right way it soon certain order, everything is taken care of because I do have physical, respect for the money as well right.

00:28:41.670 –> 00:28:46.920
Jason Mefford: that’s one thing you can do and we talked about lots of other things you know get rid of saying.

00:28:47.370 –> 00:28:57.810
Jason Mefford: You know, stop saying, some of those things that we know are not true that are holding ourselves back replace those with different things like I receive money from unexpected sources.

00:28:58.260 –> 00:29:04.620
Jason Mefford: You know I did that one for a little while to and I had some stuff show up that I had no idea would have ever been there right.

00:29:05.910 –> 00:29:20.550
Jason Mefford: So you know those things do work and, again, you know it’s it’s all about energy, try to separate and realize if you serve people if you’re doing you know, good for humanity, the money will follow.

00:29:21.060 –> 00:29:26.940
Jason Mefford: Right I serve people and money piles up for me that’s one of them that I do right I focus on the serving.

00:29:27.360 –> 00:29:32.130
Jason Mefford: And let the universe worry about filling my bank account, and it does.

00:29:32.400 –> 00:29:41.130
Jason Mefford: Right so that’s another thing kind of for from that and and again to you know, one of the things we talked about there’s a bunch of great practitioners that are out there as well.

00:29:41.670 –> 00:29:54.600
Jason Mefford: If you’re seeing that there are certain blocks that you’re having you’re not sure why you can’t get past something reach out to people they’re great I mean you and I have done it and it works so.

00:29:55.710 –> 00:30:07.110
Jason Mefford: there’s there’s people out there as well, to be able to help because at the end of the day, money is just a medium of exchange, but it allows you to do so much and to serve so many people.

00:30:07.380 –> 00:30:08.580
Jason Mefford: it’s not icky.

00:30:09.120 –> 00:30:21.870
Jason Mefford: It it flows in it flows out and the better, that you can do it actually how you’re using your money to help serve other people and help care for other people, money is beautiful.

00:30:22.890 –> 00:30:35.820
Jason Mefford: In fact, you know, the biggest way to help change and make an impact on this world is actually to be wealthy, because you can do a lot more good with money, then you can without money yeah.

00:30:37.530 –> 00:30:38.400
Kathy Gruver: that’s the way it is.

00:30:39.840 –> 00:30:43.890
Kathy Gruver: it’s like it just that’s how it’s all set up, so we might as well embrace that.

00:30:44.910 –> 00:30:58.560
Kathy Gruver: And do what we can in that system to make the biggest change in the world yeah I love that cool and this is a FAB I love this episode we haven’t talked about, we talked about money, all these episodes hundreds of thousands of episodes.

00:30:59.040 –> 00:31:00.420
Jason Mefford: Hundreds and thousands of.

00:31:00.510 –> 00:31:01.950
Kathy Gruver: I don’t I don’t do math.

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Which is why.

00:31:04.080 –> 00:31:07.470
Kathy Gruver: Anyway, I am Kathy coover I can be reached at Kathy Gruber calm.

00:31:07.770 –> 00:31:18.090
Jason Mefford: And i’m Jason method, I can be reached at Jason method calm, so this week, think about money, think about changing and having a more positive energy towards it, and just watch it start.

00:31:18.510 –> 00:31:27.960
Jason Mefford: coming in filling up in the all the good that you can do for the rest of the world by having that and we’ll catch you on the next episode of the foreigner podcast so yeah.

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