Today we speak with Alicia Cramer who is a business mindset coach and a business development consultant who has worked with a lot of entrepreneurs over the years.
A lot of times entrepreneurs are not held back by their product, advertising, contacts etc… But held back by their mindset.
so kick back, take a listen and learn how you can change your mindset and bring in more business success!

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Jason Mefford: Welcome to another episode of the fire and earth podcast i’m your co host Jason medford.

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Kathy Gruver: And I am Cathy grew her, and we are so excited to have another phenomenal guest with us today alicia Kramer is here and we’re going to learn about how we can magnify our business i’m so excited hey Lisa thanks for joining us.

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Alicia Cramer: Thank you so much for having me.

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Kathy Gruver: So why don’t you tell everyone a little bit about who you are what your background is and what you’re doing now.

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Alicia Cramer: Sure well i’ve been a business mindset coach for over a decade, in addition to that i’ve also been a business development consultant so i’ve worked with entrepreneurs on.

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Alicia Cramer: both ends of the spectrum obviously as a mindset coach i’m working more intimately with people, so if i’m first first line there you know when they’re encountering their stuff.

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Alicia Cramer: i’m that confidential place where they can actually go and spill it, and then we help them shifted and from the business development side of things i’m seeing how the unspoken mindset stuff is affecting people’s business growth, so it has been.

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Alicia Cramer: it’s been a fun journey and it’s something i’m absolutely passionate about and hopefully we can talk about some stuff that might just you know shift a few things for people today.

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Kathy Gruver: yeah that’s so cool so you say unspoken mindset stuff, how do you know it’s there if it’s if no one tells us, I mean, how do you dig and find that.

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Alicia Cramer: Well, I specialize in that, so I can see.

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Kathy Gruver: Okay.

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Jason Mefford: Well, and it’s one of those I mean like you said you know I I think so much of what holds people back in their business is the mindset stuff.

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Jason Mefford: it’s not the doing it’s not the funnel it’s not the website copy it’s it’s so much the energy and the mindset behind it and having somebody like you in confidence right because we don’t want everybody to know that we don’t know what we’re doing right here.

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Jason Mefford: is great, and in the end, I think I mean again you’re going to talk us through this, but sometimes just having somebody to talk to, and actually verbalizing some of this stuff and getting it out of our head helps to release a lot of that.

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Alicia Cramer: yeah it’s very true a lot of people over think it and there are times, where we have to pull out some deeper level tools.

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Alicia Cramer: And we might need to use some different reconditioning methods to work through some of those deeper traumas or those really sticky mindset issues that just don’t seem to budge.

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Alicia Cramer: But oftentimes like you said we’re so.

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Alicia Cramer: acclimated to our beliefs and our expectations about things that we don’t even realize when we’re hitting our own self imposed limitations, they feel natural to us, they feel normal to us.

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Alicia Cramer: And our mind is so good at justifying them they seem so real and I always ask people I say.

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Alicia Cramer: Is it a law of the universe this belief that you have is it a law of the universe that affects absolutely everyone, regardless of any other circumstances, it is not a law like the law of gravity than it is just a belief, it is just a habit and it can be changed.

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Kathy Gruver: yeah I love that you point that out, because we do we have these you know, man is not a rational animal manos rationalizing animal.

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Kathy Gruver: And we can convince ourselves of anything we can convince ourselves that so much as true whether it’s that success or that failure that perception of things.

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Kathy Gruver: And we can always shift that so I love that you said it if it’s not a law of the universe let’s let’s shift that so someone comes to you, they have one of those things it’s not a law of the universe not fighting against gravity.

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Kathy Gruver: What are the steps that you take to help them shift that perspective.

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Alicia Cramer: The first step is always to point it out.

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Alicia Cramer: And oftentimes what will happen is and even with my clients i’ve been with me for years so i’ve seen tremendous growth in them, and these people are very successful you know they are.

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Alicia Cramer: Owners of very you know very successful companies in many cases they’re making a lot of money, it had a lot of success we’ve seen a lot of growth they’ve learned a lot during our time together.

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Alicia Cramer: But it’s really easy to get sucked into those stories and so they’ll be off on their on their you know tangent and really like you can feel you can feel their energy just getting sucked right into it, you know.

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Alicia Cramer: And I have to interrupt them, we have to break that like.

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Kathy Gruver: You know.

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Alicia Cramer: just stop right there and pointed out, and when it’s one of those one of those things that they’ve really been dwelling on a lot like you know recently.

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Alicia Cramer: They sometimes they they’re a part of them wants to fight that a little bit you know part of them wants to really hold on to that limitation they really want to.

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Alicia Cramer: Prove no i’m really the victim here, you know I really can’t control this, and when we actually start to look at it and we start to unravel that.

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Alicia Cramer: A lot of times you just have to see how irrational you’re actually being before the mind can start to let go of that justification.

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Alicia Cramer: Once you get to that place, then the shift can become much, much easier and a lot of times, we have to reframe things we have to look at things differently.

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Alicia Cramer: We have to see things from a completely different perspective than the way that they’ve been previously looking at them and we it’s sometimes hard to do that for ourselves.

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Alicia Cramer: It takes a lot of deliberate intent to be really, really, really honest with ourselves about the things that we’re so convinced our limitations.

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Alicia Cramer: And you look at your life and you look at the types of results that you’re getting and you can see there’s probably a lot of consistent patterns.

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Alicia Cramer: You know if you’ve been consistently making about the same amount of money every year guess what you want to make more and chances are you probably do you’ve got some type of self imposed limitation.

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Kathy Gruver: yeah and it takes someone outside of yourself, you can’t see the dirt on your face right, so it takes somebody outside of you to go, you know i’m noticing this thing and kind of call you and your bs a little bit so yeah now that’s.

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Kathy Gruver: What as coaches that’s what we do, we look at things and go, I see that thing and we hope and get over that thing Jason you click you’re about to say something.

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Jason Mefford: Well, because I was going to say you know I mean we’re all we’re all unique right and we’re all unique little snowflakes or whatever you want to call writer, we all.

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Jason Mefford: But but, but what I found to, and it was one of the to see if this is true, with your clients, as well as we all tend to think we’re more unique than we are.

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Jason Mefford: And, most people you know I mean again i’m guessing that there are certain themes that you tend to see in business owners.

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Jason Mefford: there’s there’s there’s a certain you know, maybe two or three or I don’t know.

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Jason Mefford: But maybe if you could kind of talk to that what are some of the common things that we all struggle with.

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Jason Mefford: Because I think part of it is you know again so much of the time we think we’re so different than everybody else and and and we’re probably not I guess is kind of where i’m going right is up and.

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Alicia Cramer: yeah and i’m i’ll sometimes tell my clients when they’re in that.

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Alicia Cramer: In that story.

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Alicia Cramer: Your ego is an asshole.

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Alicia Cramer: Because that that’s the part of US that’s out of alignment that right there is telling me.

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Alicia Cramer: you’ve got unresolved fears doubts insecurities and you’re compensating for that, with the puffery right, you know when you are seeing somebody out there being.

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Alicia Cramer: Just a prick right those people, they have oftentimes way more inner stuff than most people realize that’s why they’re acting like that it’s no different than the bully out on the playground.

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Alicia Cramer: Right, the bully is the bully because he’s hurting inside and the victim is the victim because they’re hurting inside and I always say you know.

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Alicia Cramer: Once that once that victim changes inside of themselves they’re no longer a match to that bully that bully can try and it’s just not going to work and they’ll go find somebody else where they can bully so.

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Alicia Cramer: We as business owners we’re driven we’re motivated we’re passionate you know we feel called to create.

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Alicia Cramer: And that is a really, really good thing but oftentimes what happens is we’re trying to.

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Alicia Cramer: say yes to ourselves we’re trying to make things happen in our lives and in our businesses but we’re encountering encountering all of this internal resistance.

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Alicia Cramer: The fears that we’re coming up against the self doubt the mind can really easily support us with the things that we’ve done before.

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Alicia Cramer: But when we are encountering something new, a new level of growth, a new thing in our business that we’ve never done before.

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Alicia Cramer: There is this unknown factor, and when the subconscious mind doesn’t know what to do, it’s kind of like the deer in the headlights syndrome.

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Alicia Cramer: You just freeze it’s overwhelming there’s no frame of reference, so we have to start to create that for ourselves, and we do that by learning new information by.

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Alicia Cramer: Reading by having mentors by visualizing by starting to set ourselves up for that next level of success, so there are subconscious mind has a frame of reference.

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Alicia Cramer: And we’ll still encounter our fears our doubts our insecurities because we all have plenty of them, I mean we’ve we’re all human and we’ve been raised by humans and we’re surrounded by humans.

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Alicia Cramer: And so there’s all sorts of wacky stuff that are you know it’s just part of our initial conditioning we’re going to encounter those things but.

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Alicia Cramer: You have to at least set the stage for yourself to succeed by creating more of those knowns in your subconscious mind or you’ll never be willing to do the hard stuff you’ll never be willing to take that leap forward into the unknown territory.

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Kathy Gruver: All right, wow yes, I love that you’re talking about the knowns and that you know.

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Kathy Gruver: Our brain moves towards things that it’s familiar with.

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Kathy Gruver: So if we’re constantly reinforcing those fears it’s just going to find more and more of that it’s going to look for that it’s going to look for the failure.

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Kathy Gruver: Which is crazy because we say we don’t want it, but if that’s what we’re saying you know that’s what all we’re seeing we’re going to keep moving towards that, so I love this so.

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Kathy Gruver: Excuse me see we’ve identified we’ve called it out like hey you’re doing that thing we’re trying to shift the perspective on it.

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Kathy Gruver: what’s The next step for somebody that’s really stuck because those voices are in there, I mean whether it’s the old old mom stuff or old teacher stuff or you know how do we quiet those voices, how do you do that with people.

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Alicia Cramer: You know I always say you’ve got to be willing to do the work it is a lot of inner work, and it is not one of those things where you go and you have a session.

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Alicia Cramer: One for one hour a week and you’re all better you know I always tell clients I don’t have a magic wand I don’t get to just you know.

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Alicia Cramer: make all of your stuff go away instantaneously, this is about learning new ways of thinking learning how to identify when you’re hitting.

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Alicia Cramer: Your blocks and your upper limits and how what tools to use to help to shift those and there are quite a few different tools and it’s not a one size fits all.

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Alicia Cramer: When I was a general hypnotherapist a lot of times, people would come to me, and they would say you know well i’ve tried everything but I haven’t tried hypnosis so Hopefully, this is the one that’s going to get it.

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Alicia Cramer: And you know I started to explain to people there’s no one magic therapy there’s no one magic.

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Alicia Cramer: Anything really you know it’s about having a toolbox because, just like using the analogy of building a house or fixing something in your House.

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Alicia Cramer: Sure great you’ve got a hammer that’s going to come in handy sometimes but you know what a hammer, is not going to screw in that nail.

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Alicia Cramer: So we have to have this this toolbox of different mindset tools, because some are going to be more effective for certain things than others and we want to be empowered because we’re encountering our stuff, we have to be with ourself.

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Alicia Cramer: 24 hours a day, seven days a week, right and you have to be able to.

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Alicia Cramer: shift things when it comes up because, otherwise, what happens is we get sucked into the current of that negativity.

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Alicia Cramer: And I always say it’s like being a hamster on a wheel you’re running running running running running spinning with this problem and you’re getting nowhere except exhausted.

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Alicia Cramer: So be willing to do the inner work, and when you start to learn these tools understand that this isn’t just a do it once in a while.

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Alicia Cramer: This becomes a new way of thinking, a new way of being and if you’re really aspiring for a life that you truly love you will be willing to do that, because the alternative is.

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Alicia Cramer: keep doing what you’ve been doing, are you where you want to be, do you feel the way that you want to feel do you have the success that you want to have.

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Alicia Cramer: And more than likely, the answer is no, so we all know that sucks right it doesn’t feel good when we’re struggling with problems it doesn’t feel good when we have a goal, and we are not getting the result that we want.

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Alicia Cramer: So why not take a couple seconds or a couple of minutes here and there, throughout the day and when you encounter those things.

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Alicia Cramer: do some inner work to clear those things away to shift those things to reframe those problems in your own mind, so that you can be more in alignment and more congruent with yourself and keep moving in the direction of what you truly want.

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Jason Mefford: And I think if you use the word tools to right and I, and I think most people listening it’s I mean heck I grew up my dad was a contractor I got a whole garage full of tools right.

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Jason Mefford: Physical tools and I think we all understand that easy enough like you said you know you wouldn’t you wouldn’t put a screw in with a hammer, except for one guy that I knew he used to joke you put screws in with a hammer, you take him out with a screwdriver but.

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Jason Mefford: that’s not the normal Okay, but but we understand that right because that’s familiar to us, I use a screwdriver for one thing I use a hammer, for something else.

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Jason Mefford: But when it comes to some of these mindset or mental things I think people forget that there are tools, just like a physical hammer that we can use.

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Jason Mefford: And it is like you said it’s not just going to a session once a week and then doing nothing in between.

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Jason Mefford: That doesn’t help you right, I mean that’s that’s why again things like talk therapy take years and years and years and years.

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Jason Mefford: Because if you’re not practicing if you’re not applying some of these things in between the sessions you’re never going to actually grow and learn right, I mean it’d be like going to go into the gym once a week for an hour and then doing nothing else in between.

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Jason Mefford: results.

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Jason Mefford: yeah you’re gonna get.

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Alicia Cramer: Nothing at all, but is it going to get you to where you really truly want to be.

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Alicia Cramer: Probably not I mean unless that’s all you need right there were always those rare occasions and I don’t really work with clients in this capacity anymore, but you know back when I did general hypnotherapy or I did you know eft.

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Alicia Cramer: With clients on that more like you know session by session basis there would be somebody who would have.

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Alicia Cramer: One issue that was just really causing trouble for them and they just wanted to get rid of that.

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Alicia Cramer: They were not in a growth mindset they didn’t really care about personal development, they didn’t really care about any bigger vision goals so like this thing is hurting me please get rid of it.

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Alicia Cramer: And you’re going to have that and that’s Okay, you know there’s no judgment more than likely they’re probably not listening to this because you know that’s not the mindset, so if you really want to aspire to create better things for yourself.

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Alicia Cramer: You have to adopt the that real passion for your own personal growth you’ve got to be willing to do things differently and then you’ve done them before and that doesn’t mean that you give up the things that you love.

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Alicia Cramer: To the contrary, it means you actually love your life more it might mean giving up the news because you’re just pumping negative stuff into your subconscious you’re just bringing yourself down.

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Alicia Cramer: But more than likely if you’re saying yes to yourself, by giving up on putting negative stuff in your subconscious you’re ready for it anyway.

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Alicia Cramer: Right you’re ready for that change, and what I found is that you know, sometimes we want to hold on to things because it’s old and familiar and we don’t even like it.

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Alicia Cramer: And when somebody gives us permission to just drop it it’s like Oh, why didn’t I think of that.

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Kathy Gruver: yeah well it’s our brain would rather stay with the thing that’s familiar.

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Kathy Gruver: Even if it’s horrible then risk going outside of that you know it’s the known hell, as opposed to risk and going out and trying something else so yeah that’s great So what are some of your favorite tools i’m so curious if I forgot, you were a hypnotherapist.

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Kathy Gruver: I we’ve had so many hypnotherapist hypnotist on the show, because I do that as well, so other than that what are some of your favorite tools that you bring out for some of your clients that are stuck or need that mindset shift.

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Alicia Cramer: So you know I got my start in this realm actually I shouldn’t say I got my start as a hypnotherapist um before that.

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Alicia Cramer: I actually started as an eft practitioner so eft is still a tool that I use, and that was way back in 2006 before it like hit the Internet and was like you know, a big thing you know big phenomenon.

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Alicia Cramer: And then in 2008 in eight I got my my certification as a hypnotherapist so I.

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Alicia Cramer: You know kind of pivoted transition and then I quickly realized that it’s just one tool and in order to really get the type of results that I wanted for my clients, we needed to be able to use multiple tools.

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Alicia Cramer: So, then, I started to shift from you know just the the tool mode mode of you know, helping people to.

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Alicia Cramer: incorporating a variety of different techniques, and so I am trained in different types of energy work I have studied universal laws, I have my master’s degree in metaphysical science, so we bring a lot of that in two sessions.

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Alicia Cramer: And I learned some different techniques over the years that are kind of just from experience and understanding how the subconscious mind works so nlp is obviously a part of it and there’s a lot of different.

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Alicia Cramer: Little things that kind of come into play so releasing energy so little bits of different modalities that i’ve used over the years that I bring into the work that I do with my clients and I teach them these.

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Alicia Cramer: I teach them the tools, basically, so that they can then apply them when they’re needed and a lot of this work is about.

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Alicia Cramer: what’s coming up for you right now let’s shift that with the tool that feels most appropriate right here, right now and then let’s reinforce that you’re you know you’re catching yourself when you’re feeling out of alignment.

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Alicia Cramer: and getting yourself back into the right mindset now I always tell my clients.

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Alicia Cramer: This is not about just finding everything that is wrong with you and fixing it because, like you said earlier, the more you focus on something the more evidence you’ll see of that.

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Alicia Cramer: Our goal is to always stay focused on where we’re going on what we’re wanting to create.

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Alicia Cramer: And as we are on that path we’re going to bump up against our stuff that’s when you pull out the tools, so we don’t go on a deep.

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Alicia Cramer: journey of finding all of your stuff I guarantee your stuff will come up and when it does it’s right there at the surface and that’s the easiest time to shift it so stay focused on where we’re going.

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Alicia Cramer: Using the mindset tools and techniques to visualize yourself to feel yourself having ultimately what you want, you know, a.

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Alicia Cramer: Little tools and techniques like when somebody finds themselves in any type of negative emotion doesn’t matter what it is, if it’s fear doubt stress overwhelm any negative emotion you just catch yourself in that as soon as you can.

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Alicia Cramer: And you recognize Well that is me basically envisioning something in my future that I don’t want so it’s really just a form of negative visualization.

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Alicia Cramer: When you catch yourself, you ask yourself what would I prefer, how would I prefer that experience to be how would I prefer to feel right now.

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Alicia Cramer: Because by asking yourself that question, and this is pretty much widely taught now I think Tony robbins teaches it all the time right you ask a question.

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Alicia Cramer: And the mind starts to search for answers, so when you ask yourself what would I prefer to feel your mind starts to reach for that it starts to look for that.

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Alicia Cramer: Well, I would prefer to feel confident, I would prefer to feel empowered I would prefer to feel successful I prefer to feel wonderful and energized and alive and guess what you just did in that moment.

00:23:12.720 –> 00:23:28.260
Alicia Cramer: you changed your state you changed your mindset you’ve shifted from worry right and creating something you don’t want to creating a future probability that you would much rather be in you’ve raised your vibration.

00:23:28.770 –> 00:23:37.800
Alicia Cramer: And you also every time you do that you’re reconditioning that old habit of worried you’re reconditioning yourself to.

00:23:38.850 –> 00:23:44.940
Alicia Cramer: Catch yourself sooner when you’re feeling negative emotions and to pivot that to shift that.

00:23:46.380 –> 00:23:56.460
Alicia Cramer: that’s powerful you know it’s not just a simple, I mean it seems like a simple little thing but it’s so powerful, because if you’re willing to do that, throughout the day each and every day.

00:23:57.270 –> 00:24:04.350
Alicia Cramer: I mean that’s a lot of positive reconditioning that you’re doing without much effort and let’s face it, it wasn’t hard.

00:24:04.890 –> 00:24:13.860
Alicia Cramer: And how much better, do you feel and how much more productive, are you going to be and how much more effective, are you going to be at achieving your goals when you’re in that more positive mindset.

00:24:14.220 –> 00:24:30.450
Alicia Cramer: Then, if you are letting yourself get pulled off of your path with the old fears doubts and worries are just old habits that’s all it is and we need to create new empowering habits and we do that, little by little, step by step through repetition.

00:24:33.990 –> 00:24:35.280
Kathy Gruver: Such a simple question.

00:24:36.510 –> 00:24:38.610
Alicia Cramer: What I prefer powerful yeah.

00:24:39.120 –> 00:24:44.070
Kathy Gruver: It is and it’s we forget that feelings are just warning systems.

00:24:44.520 –> 00:24:54.480
Kathy Gruver: And we feel like we have to sit in that you know it’s the touch your hand of the hot stove and you go oh that’s hot you don’t put it there and go wow that’s warm that’s gonna hurt in a second what’s that smell that doesn’t feel.

00:24:54.510 –> 00:24:57.810
Kathy Gruver: Good we don’t do that with the physical sensation I hope.

00:24:58.470 –> 00:25:00.390
Kathy Gruver: We tend to do that with the the.

00:25:00.720 –> 00:25:09.570
Kathy Gruver: emotional sensations though we sit in that and we wallow in that we keep feeling and over and over again, and then it reminds us to the last time we felt that and then we’re What if we feel it again and.

00:25:09.810 –> 00:25:14.070
Kathy Gruver: Rather than simply shifting that and saying what would I like to feel instead that’s brilliant I love that.

00:25:14.880 –> 00:25:22.650
Jason Mefford: Well it’s such a subtle little nuance right because, again, most of the time when we’re feeling those negative feelings we’re going to be down at the bottom of the emotional spectrum right.

00:25:23.940 –> 00:25:39.570
Jason Mefford: Just the fact that you asked yourself that question moves you into a state of curiosity, which is going to be higher than probably where you’re currently at so just by stopping and asking the question helps to literally move you to a.

00:25:39.570 –> 00:25:40.230
Alicia Cramer: Different city.

00:25:40.860 –> 00:25:49.560
Alicia Cramer: And it and it can keep moving you progressively up that vibrational emotional scale as long as you’re willing to just keep going into it.

00:25:49.950 –> 00:26:01.380
Alicia Cramer: Because, as you’re doing it you’re really building positive momentum right, it might just first start with that question, and it might be reaching right you feel yourself reaching for something that feels a little bit better.

00:26:02.100 –> 00:26:11.910
Alicia Cramer: or brings you up a little bit, and then you start to build more momentum on that we know that you cannot under most circumstances go from a very, very low.

00:26:12.660 –> 00:26:24.540
Alicia Cramer: emotional state, up to a very, very high emotional state it’s just too big, of a of a jump if you’re really stuck in depression and you’ve been in that State for a while.

00:26:25.290 –> 00:26:31.980
Alicia Cramer: you’re not immediately going to go into bliss you’re not it’s too big, of a vibrational variance.

00:26:32.640 –> 00:26:49.950
Alicia Cramer: But you can start to break it, you can start to move up just a little bit get a little bit of relief and even if that’s the the answer to your question, I would feel better, I would just feel a sense of relief I would feel more peaceful I would feel.

00:26:51.120 –> 00:27:03.690
Alicia Cramer: hopeful right and what are we doing we’re slowly moving ourselves up incrementally you know I sometimes like joke with my clients in sort of a loving but poignant way.

00:27:04.200 –> 00:27:11.970
Alicia Cramer: Right, you want to go from the bottom of the staircase to the top and just take one big jump and it doesn’t work that way.

00:27:12.330 –> 00:27:21.780
Alicia Cramer: You have to take the steps now here’s the thing right when your mind is down here you’re thinking to yourself, oh that’s going to take so long it’s gonna be so much work.

00:27:22.350 –> 00:27:32.430
Alicia Cramer: No, it feels better and better every step it’s a good thing, even if you only take that one step it’s better than being down in misery.

00:27:32.850 –> 00:27:45.720
Alicia Cramer: You know, bring yourself up a little bit, and then you can bring yourself up a little bit more, and before you know it you’re going to be so much better ah yeah it’s worth it it’s worth the time do the inner work yeah.

00:27:46.080 –> 00:27:53.040
Kathy Gruver: At each step takes you closer because you’re definitely not gonna it’s not an escalator you can’t just stand there you have to take the step what.

00:27:53.910 –> 00:28:05.670
Kathy Gruver: Someone said the other day, what is the what is the best time to plant a tree 10 years ago what’s the second best time today, you have to take the step you can’t go should have done it then because you can’t time machine I don’t have that yet.

00:28:05.850 –> 00:28:12.030
Kathy Gruver: We can go back and undo that or change that so every little incremental thing that you do lead you towards that.

00:28:13.170 –> 00:28:22.800
Kathy Gruver: I was telling a I did a radio show, last night I use the example of you know you sometimes forget where you’d been and I was working with a massage client she was in so much pain.

00:28:23.700 –> 00:28:30.960
Kathy Gruver: Her back was so bad she couldn’t even walk around trader joe’s it took her like an hour and a half to shop, because every five minutes you gotta stop.

00:28:31.470 –> 00:28:39.090
Kathy Gruver: going to lean on the cart she was in so much pain and months, went by and I treated or tree or trigger months went by and she showed up one day and I said how are you and she said i’m so frustrated.

00:28:39.420 –> 00:28:46.050
Kathy Gruver: I could only play basketball with my kids for 15 minutes last night before my back hurt and it’s so irritating my stupid bet and I went.

00:28:47.700 –> 00:28:56.070
Kathy Gruver: You couldn’t shop three or four months ago I sent you play basketball for 15 minutes, with your kids look at how far you’ve come and she.

00:28:56.400 –> 00:29:05.790
Kathy Gruver: Had a sit in that realization that yeah she couldn’t even walk around the grocery store before and now she’s playing basketball with our kids what a huge leap that because she did it.

00:29:07.260 –> 00:29:13.020
Kathy Gruver: She couldn’t see that progress, so this is the other thing I love about coaching and doing what we all do, is to remind them.

00:29:13.440 –> 00:29:25.800
Kathy Gruver: But look how far you’ve come look those amazing steps that you’ve taken from where you are you can’t see all that movement that you had so I just I love the yeah the stairs that staircase it’s a good example.

00:29:26.490 –> 00:29:34.380
Jason Mefford: Well i’m guessing to right alicia that your clients have probably done this too right where it’s just like what Kathy was talking about with her client.

00:29:34.860 –> 00:29:42.360
Jason Mefford: Because, as business owners are so driven we’re so focused we’re so passionate we tend to just beat ourselves up to.

00:29:42.990 –> 00:29:57.270
Jason Mefford: right because, again we we just feel like we’re never enough never enough we’ve just never right and and and that plays into all of this stuff as well to where you know stopping reflecting looking back.

00:29:58.050 –> 00:30:11.220
Jason Mefford: at how far we’ve actually come right because we never accomplish what we think we can in a day, but in a month or a year we accomplished, much more than we could have imagined.

00:30:11.430 –> 00:30:12.420
Alicia Cramer: it’s very true.

00:30:12.450 –> 00:30:15.060
Jason Mefford: Keep that keep that momentum going yeah.

00:30:15.720 –> 00:30:20.880
Kathy Gruver: yeah beautiful and, of course, once again I have to be the bearer of bad news we’re out of time.

00:30:23.820 –> 00:30:37.020
Kathy Gruver: We have such incredible guests, we could have these conversations all day long but at some point we must end any final thoughts alicia anything that any other tips that you need to want to throw in real quick and then how can we reach you any other final thoughts are you Jason.

00:30:38.310 –> 00:30:48.180
Alicia Cramer: So I would just say you know if you’re feeling called to do something if you’re feeling inspired to do something let’s say.

00:30:48.630 –> 00:31:01.170
Alicia Cramer: You know, you do have a grow have a goal for growth in your business and you find that there are those feelings of maybe unworthiness or.

00:31:01.830 –> 00:31:12.690
Alicia Cramer: You know, do I deserve this level of wealth, do I deserve this level of success or you know, maybe this is just as good as it’s going to get for me yeah we played a game with ourselves too.

00:31:14.160 –> 00:31:16.020
Alicia Cramer: I just challenge you to.

00:31:17.250 –> 00:31:18.540
Alicia Cramer: really feel into it.

00:31:19.830 –> 00:31:28.740
Alicia Cramer: When something feels aligned when it feels right when it feels like our inner guidance is saying yes to it.

00:31:29.610 –> 00:31:39.660
Alicia Cramer: Then it is the right thing to do, it is right for you to have it, it is right for you to create it, how much.

00:31:40.620 –> 00:31:59.340
Alicia Cramer: Good are you to yourself, your family, the people you love your clients your customers, whoever when you are saying no to that when you’re staying stuck in the status quo really be honest with yourself, because that is just a game that your mind is playing with you.

00:32:01.020 –> 00:32:19.440
Alicia Cramer: If it feels like the right thing to do, if your inner guidance is saying yes to expansion and yes to grow, you will never feel whole and complete if you do not follow through on that you will not, and you will not be of the highest service to anyone.

00:32:20.730 –> 00:32:36.420
Alicia Cramer: You have to be willing to challenge that old paradigm, you have to be willing to prove to yourself, by going within and feeling that that inner guidance.

00:32:37.590 –> 00:32:43.080
Alicia Cramer: And and stop playing that game stop playing the game with yourself stop limiting yourself.

00:32:43.710 –> 00:32:50.610
Alicia Cramer: You have to remember you are not doing anyone any favors by playing small if your heart is saying go big.

00:32:51.090 –> 00:33:02.340
Alicia Cramer: You better do it because that’s, the only way you’re going to be in alignment and congruent with yourself and it’s, the only way that you’re going to be fully of service to all the people who.

00:33:02.670 –> 00:33:13.290
Alicia Cramer: need you, and they need you in a higher vibration, they need you to be the best version of yourself, does that mean that you won’t have off days does that mean that you won’t trip over your stuff no we all do.

00:33:13.590 –> 00:33:22.740
Alicia Cramer: that’s just part of learning and growing it’s just part of the journey, but if you’re sitting there and you’re staying stuck in your limitations.

00:33:23.850 –> 00:33:35.760
Alicia Cramer: You know you’re not you’re not doing your work, you are not doing your work in the world, so you’ve got to be willing to be really, really honest with yourself about.

00:33:36.330 –> 00:33:49.050
Alicia Cramer: What you’re feeling and what are you being called to do and an A calling is not just a spiritual thing it’s like that is our inner guidance, that is our inner guidance saying this is where we’re supposed to go and we’ve got to honor that.

00:33:50.760 –> 00:34:05.130
Alicia Cramer: And then to also just say if anybody wants to get Ahold of me, the best way to do that is through my website it’s alicia Kramer calm a Li si Ay Ay si R a m er calm all my social media links are on there.

00:34:06.060 –> 00:34:12.990
Alicia Cramer: If you feel inspired you can schedule a complimentary consultation and email is there as well, if anybody just wants to reach out.

00:34:14.880 –> 00:34:25.140
Jason Mefford: Well, this has been great alicia, and again I mean we kind of started off talking about you know magnify your business and anybody who owns a business wants to magnify their business.

00:34:25.710 –> 00:34:33.960
Jason Mefford: But it it just comes back again same thing i’ve been hearing lots lots before if you want to magnify your business magnify yourself.

00:34:34.800 –> 00:34:45.810
Jason Mefford: and your business will magnify right and it’s it’s just what you said it’s it’s it’s getting more aligned it’s being willing to do the work to actually learn the tools.

00:34:46.170 –> 00:34:53.640
Jason Mefford: implement the tools, because, as we magnify ourselves and our energy vibration power increase.

00:34:54.180 –> 00:35:08.610
Jason Mefford: Your business has to increase as well, it just but trying to to work, the other way around it just doesn’t work folks and so alicia Thank you, this has been it’s been great i’ve learned a lot as well myself so did.

00:35:08.820 –> 00:35:12.570
Kathy Gruver: Everybody reach out i’ve known alicia for APP for ages.

00:35:13.230 –> 00:35:26.970
Kathy Gruver: She does amazing stuff So if you are feeling stuck and magnify yourself your growth your business reach out to her she’s incredible so thank you so much for being here so great yeah absolutely i’m Kathy gruver I can be reached at Kathy

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Jason Mefford: And i’m Jason method, I can be reached at Jason method calm so go out have a great week start implementing some of these things and reach out to alicia and we’ll catch you on the next episode of the fire and earth podcast so yeah.

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