Believe it or not even animals can be quite talkative. Now it may not be with words, however there is a way to be able to communicate with our animal friends that our guest today can shine some light upon.
Heike Adam is a professional animal communicator who has joined the podcast today to share her story with us.

Learn more about Heike at: and connect with her on Instagram @eichhoernchenblog

To get Heike’s help with your pet:


00:00:03.240 –> 00:00:09.840
Kathy Gruver: hey everybody welcome back to another episode of the fire earth podcast i’m excited for this one and i’m your co host Kathy Gruber.

00:00:10.260 –> 00:00:30.030
Jason Mefford: And i’m Jason medford and all the way from Germany, Deutsche Lon Deutschland we have Heikki Adam or autumn right so so again i’m i’m a little rusty on my German but head sick unveil Coleman so a foyer one to add podcast.

00:00:30.120 –> 00:00:31.200
Jason Mefford: yeah do that right.

00:00:31.710 –> 00:00:37.200
Heike Adam: Yes, okay perfect Thank you i’m so excited to be here.

00:00:38.070 –> 00:00:48.990
Kathy Gruver: we’re so excited to have you my cat has made several appearances on the show very accidentally and Jason why don’t you give a little bit of background about how how this all came about.

00:00:49.590 –> 00:01:00.570
Jason Mefford: yeah so so Heikki and I are in some common groups together and and she’s just a person that I want to know more about.

00:01:01.080 –> 00:01:09.120
Jason Mefford: For one for one thing and we’ll let her kind of get in and explain a little bit about who she is and what she does because.

00:01:09.600 –> 00:01:14.550
Jason Mefford: To me it’s just fascinating and I want to learn, I want to learn more so, you know.

00:01:15.090 –> 00:01:21.030
Jason Mefford: you’re obviously probably watching the video if you’re watching this and you can see there’s a bunch of squirrels on the back.

00:01:21.660 –> 00:01:33.810
Jason Mefford: of her wall there so hike you on it and you just introduce yourself a little bit tell people what you do because, like I said i’ve got lots of questions i’m sure Cathy does too.

00:01:34.530 –> 00:01:46.590
Jason Mefford: Because what you’re doing, I think, is amazing it’s something that most of us have no idea that there’s people like you, with your gifts yes.

00:01:46.620 –> 00:01:58.170
Heike Adam: Right that’s so i’m an animal communicator and i’m also a squirrel level has you see behind so my my really my passion of.

00:01:58.650 –> 00:02:07.890
Heike Adam: squirrels and I have also I have them in the garden, and a large tree outside and I feed them and I freely.

00:02:08.850 –> 00:02:21.510
Heike Adam: Much knowledge about them and love my animals as well, and so I became this an animal communicator, which I found out.

00:02:22.380 –> 00:02:47.370
Heike Adam: yeah that’s something like that is existing and i’m doing this only for three years, I started some classes and to doing to do it and, yes, i’m talking with animals as pets and also with white animals squirrels this you know this this birds foxes bed.

00:02:48.660 –> 00:02:49.380
The spiders.

00:02:51.360 –> 00:02:53.550
Heike Adam: spiders showing up and I talked with.

00:02:53.550 –> 00:02:56.100
Heike Adam: them, so this is what i’m doing.

00:02:57.690 –> 00:03:05.340
Jason Mefford: Well, and I think it’s fascinating you know because there’s there was the the movie I don’t know if it made it to Germany, but you know, Dr doolittle.

00:03:06.030 –> 00:03:09.420
Jason Mefford: You know the whole the whole idea around around that story in it.

00:03:09.840 –> 00:03:24.810
Jason Mefford: And it seems like well that doesn’t really happen that’s just a movie, but it does really happen and and and what’s funny is you know after we started talking, especially one one of the houses that I lived in we had a lot of squirrels.

00:03:25.110 –> 00:03:30.810
Jason Mefford: And I used to love to just sit and watch them I put food out for them they’re amazing creatures.

00:03:31.260 –> 00:03:49.440
Jason Mefford: And where I live, now we don’t really get squirrels we’re close to a Park, but we don’t have squirrels will have raccoons and possums you know, a bunch of birds and other stuff that sometimes walk along the fence line, but a couple of weeks ago there was a squirrel that went.

00:03:49.470 –> 00:03:51.180
Jason Mefford: Along the fence and kind of stopped.

00:03:51.900 –> 00:04:00.450
Jason Mefford: And, in fact, the day before yesterday, I think it was another one came and sat there and looked at me.

00:04:02.130 –> 00:04:05.520
Jason Mefford: So, probably not a coincidence for.

00:04:05.550 –> 00:04:07.140
Jason Mefford: Now that we know.

00:04:08.160 –> 00:04:22.500
Jason Mefford: But, but how how did you, you know kind of find out about this gift How did this come to you and how do you communicate with them.

00:04:23.430 –> 00:04:32.790
Heike Adam: yeah I found out by a colleague she taught me about an animal communicator in Germany, a woman who’s doing that.

00:04:33.360 –> 00:04:46.050
Heike Adam: And I was not so interested in that at that time, so I was thinking oh that’s Nice and talking with cats and dogs and I was following her then on Facebook and.

00:04:46.740 –> 00:04:58.110
Heike Adam: After some time she posted in her blog about that she energetically connects with wild animals to avoid that the wild animals like to.

00:04:58.620 –> 00:05:12.030
Heike Adam: run into the car when she’s driving around and then I started to be interested because I love, I said the white animals and the schools and then I was thinking wow.

00:05:12.450 –> 00:05:23.040
Heike Adam: I could talk over schools as well, this is animal communication and, though I contacted her and asked she provided process classes.

00:05:23.430 –> 00:05:33.840
Heike Adam: And she was not so positive about it, she said yes, you can talk this live animals but usually by dynamos do not want to talk this this is people just humans.

00:05:34.440 –> 00:05:47.310
Heike Adam: And, but I it yeah I didn’t let this stop me because I was thinking she doesn’t know me and my passion for girls and I enrolled in basic class costs.

00:05:47.880 –> 00:06:02.460
Heike Adam: And then she was also excited that i’m so so gifted with this animals and also this white animals, and then I took another classroom so she’s providing also a one year Program.

00:06:04.470 –> 00:06:17.580
Heike Adam: Education program to to to become a professional animal communicator and that was taking this as well, and just practicing and training and.

00:06:18.630 –> 00:06:36.180
Heike Adam: doing a lot with this pets for sure as well and and also this was what I was this close and yeah and and I found out why why there was doing that that i’m an animal and past so i’m loft enemas.

00:06:37.980 –> 00:06:52.620
Heike Adam: Since childhood and I had a coach who told me, you are an animal impasse and I didn’t see it to my myself, and I was blown away and other people taught me yes for sure if we have seen that.

00:06:53.250 –> 00:07:05.490
Heike Adam: But I didn’t recognize this that I just practice and practice, and this develop the skill over and over I was getting better at.

00:07:06.030 –> 00:07:23.790
Heike Adam: It it didn’t happen over time, though I did really I needed to to work on it to practice it and I need to trust me there was also something I didn’t trust me in the beginning, it just needed to know to practice to train yeah.

00:07:24.000 –> 00:07:24.990
Kathy Gruver: And house.

00:07:25.230 –> 00:07:34.680
Heike Adam: Working is that it’s really mapping over a distance so it’s called my attendance policy on which is also called.

00:07:36.060 –> 00:07:49.260
Heike Adam: A feeling over a distance, like, I also call it intuitive communication it’s from the intuition and from the heart, like a heart to heart communication yeah.

00:07:49.980 –> 00:07:59.010
Kathy Gruver: Oh, this is so great, I love what you just said about so you clearly had an intuitive gift you had that just you had it and you also had to train and practice.

00:07:59.400 –> 00:08:03.030
Kathy Gruver: And I think that’s such a great reminder there’s so many people out there that have.

00:08:03.270 –> 00:08:13.140
Kathy Gruver: You think you’re just getting a boon and you magically have this thing you still have to work at it, you still have to train you still have to practice, you still have to study and I think that’s a great reminder.

00:08:14.100 –> 00:08:25.470
Kathy Gruver: And, just like you, I have a really great intuitive connection with animals allaster and I have massive communications just in our head if i’m thinking to have him come upstairs he comes upstairs it blows my boyfriend’s mind every time.

00:08:26.880 –> 00:08:39.540
Kathy Gruver: So, so people who would come to you, maybe they say hey we have a pet that we need to talk with what is the main purpose, people would seek you out is it for health reasons is that just to get to know their pet better what would be the main purpose people find before.

00:08:39.810 –> 00:08:55.170
Heike Adam: No i’m usually it’s smart a behavioral issue and problem they have sometimes also business health issues, but often it’s a behavioral issue that it’s the dog is barking a lot.

00:08:57.120 –> 00:08:59.550
Heike Adam: You know, does not like.

00:09:00.720 –> 00:09:17.370
Heike Adam: Foreign people and our doesn’t like the crew ma are headed horse who didn’t like the kuma and couldn’t be equipped try it on the horse it’s more like these behavioral problems and when people come to me.

00:09:20.100 –> 00:09:24.780
Jason Mefford: Well, and so I wanted to you know, again I just I want to learn.

00:09:25.200 –> 00:09:26.220
You know, is.

00:09:27.360 –> 00:09:37.290
Jason Mefford: Is you know you see you see things like the the movie Dr doolittle right and all of a sudden, you know the mouth mouth, the horse are starting to talk, you know kind of thing, like Mr add.

00:09:37.860 –> 00:09:49.740
Jason Mefford: Well that’s that’s not how it comes through right it’s not like you’re hearing with your ears, but we’re connected and communicating.

00:09:51.720 –> 00:09:58.080
Jason Mefford: kind of through through spirit through consciousness, whatever word, you want to kind of use right and.

00:09:58.560 –> 00:10:17.910
Jason Mefford: And again, we all have that sometimes even with humans that we’re communicating with right they’re not using words, but we feel it we kind of know what’s going on, it sounds like that’s that’s kind of how you’re communicating right is that way, yes, yes it’s that.

00:10:17.940 –> 00:10:22.680
Heike Adam: way it’s it’s such a it’s like an inner knowing.

00:10:24.360 –> 00:10:36.690
Heike Adam: I hear in my somehow in my heart on inside I just here he’s like well I have feelings I just know what the animal is.

00:10:37.170 –> 00:10:59.730
Heike Adam: saying to me and I translated back into our language, then I write it down but it’s just like an inner knowing feeling and which I get it’s not something which is speaking out loud or something like that it’s in the in the mind and the heart, nothing like that.

00:11:03.390 –> 00:11:03.570
Jason Mefford: well.

00:11:04.590 –> 00:11:07.470
Jason Mefford: I was gonna say so I would guess too because, again, you know it’s.

00:11:09.870 –> 00:11:13.260
Jason Mefford: i’ve been trying to speak to the animals more myself.

00:11:13.440 –> 00:11:16.020
Jason Mefford: right because i’ve got little hummingbirds and stuff that come.

00:11:16.020 –> 00:11:16.380
Jason Mefford: In and.

00:11:16.410 –> 00:11:17.100
Jason Mefford: it’s not.

00:11:17.760 –> 00:11:27.120
Jason Mefford: Not necessarily to carry on a conversation with them, but you know, especially because animal medicine right in general is kind of.

00:11:28.410 –> 00:11:32.700
Jason Mefford: What are you trying to give me what.

00:11:32.880 –> 00:11:38.580
Jason Mefford: Is the message i’m supposed to receive you know i’ve got hummingbirds that come.

00:11:39.690 –> 00:11:48.720
Jason Mefford: A lot in fact for about the last week i’m pretty sure it’s the same exact hummingbird because it’s the same it’s the same markings.

00:11:49.320 –> 00:11:56.580
Jason Mefford: But he will come and sit on my birds of paradise and he’ll just sit there and normally you don’t see hummingbirds set.

00:11:57.150 –> 00:12:05.910
Jason Mefford: But he’ll just sit there and he’ll kind of look at me and he’ll fly up come back down and land in the same place and he’ll fly up and they’ll come down and land in the same place.

00:12:06.810 –> 00:12:16.710
Jason Mefford: And you know another hummingbird will come over to the feeder and sometimes he’ll push them away right and at first, I was thinking.

00:12:17.910 –> 00:12:29.610
Jason Mefford: Well, is that because you’re territorial and it’s like come on dude you know there’s plenty of there’s plenty of syrup let the let the other ones have have have have a drink too right, but just the last week or so I wondered.

00:12:30.720 –> 00:12:52.710
Jason Mefford: Maybe that’s not what he’s doing maybe he is here, communicating with me some way, protecting me doing something for me that I don’t consciously realize and that’s maybe why he’s doing it instead because Why else would this bird just hang out with me when I go out on my back porch.

00:12:52.710 –> 00:13:04.530
Jason Mefford: Right there’s there’s a reason i’m sure it’s the same way, like because i’ve seen pictures of you out in the forest with squirrels and i’m sure that they just kind of hang out with you, yes for a while right and there’s a.

00:13:04.530 –> 00:13:05.160
Jason Mefford: reason.

00:13:05.340 –> 00:13:10.290
Jason Mefford: A reason behind that yes, so reason behind that yes.

00:13:11.250 –> 00:13:28.620
Heike Adam: me it’s also that they are my spirit animals my my guides the stimulus always show up when i’m also when i’m traveling to some other places, this this show up or when i’m sick they show up and and me, and he means.

00:13:30.360 –> 00:13:31.050
Heike Adam: showing up.

00:13:32.520 –> 00:13:32.760

00:13:35.160 –> 00:13:43.380
Kathy Gruver: I think we so often overlook the intuitive nature of animals and same thing with alister he showed up for the first time, when I was sick.

00:13:43.680 –> 00:13:51.390
Kathy Gruver: He just showed up at my door and a friend of mine stopped by to bring the soup and said, is this your cat and I went know and he walked in the door and sat with me while I was sick.

00:13:51.750 –> 00:13:58.500
Kathy Gruver: And then every every time I would throw a tarot card every time I would start to meditate or do some sort of like moon ritual or something he would show up.

00:13:58.920 –> 00:14:07.410
Kathy Gruver: And it’s like clearly we had this very strong connection, even though he was the neighborhood wander or cat he picked us he’s with us now 99% of the time.

00:14:08.820 –> 00:14:20.580
Kathy Gruver: For people who are listening and going, this is surely this can’t work, this is stupid, I have a story, so my very first cat here in California very first whatever his name was Luther lord of pen dragon because of course it was.

00:14:21.240 –> 00:14:24.660
Kathy Gruver: And he had ended up with cancer in his paw.

00:14:25.830 –> 00:14:32.970
Kathy Gruver: huge growth very fast moving and because of the nature of cats you can’t just take off a PA we had to take off the entire leg.

00:14:33.720 –> 00:14:48.570
Kathy Gruver: And by this point he was like 16 or 17 years old, I was so torn I didn’t know what to do and a client of mine said well you know I know this animal psychic she talks to your cat from a distance and i’m a believer in this stuff and even I went.

00:14:49.650 –> 00:14:57.660
Kathy Gruver: Really Okay, so I told her where the cat was located she calls me back about an hour later and says Okay, I spoke with Luther.

00:14:58.260 –> 00:15:03.960
Kathy Gruver: which we got to admit sounds a little crazy right, I spoke with her, and I said okay What did he say.

00:15:04.320 –> 00:15:14.790
Kathy Gruver: and the first thing she did was tell me about Luther tell me about some of his behavior some of his habits some of his interactions with me that she could not have known.

00:15:15.300 –> 00:15:24.930
Kathy Gruver: unless she spoke to the cat I mean like i’m being really serious the way he lays the way he puts his hand on my journal, the way he said, I mean like things that unless you’re watching me you wouldn’t know.

00:15:25.530 –> 00:15:34.680
Kathy Gruver: And then she said, you know, he said he’s totally up for the surgery, he has a lot of life in them, if you have the money to do it, he would like to stay with you he’s not ready to go.

00:15:37.980 –> 00:15:49.140
Kathy Gruver: broke my heart and we went ahead with the surgery he recovered so quickly, we got another two or three years, with him, it was the most amazing thing and I gotta say, even if it was complete bs.

00:15:49.410 –> 00:15:53.790
Kathy Gruver: It gave us such a sense of peace and comfort and everything she said, actually ended up being true.

00:15:55.290 –> 00:15:57.720
Kathy Gruver: So for people who don’t believe this as possible.

00:15:58.680 –> 00:16:08.100
Kathy Gruver: believe I mean expand your belief system and start to embrace those things that are the unknown so that was just I wanted to sort of validate what we’re talking about here by sharing that.

00:16:08.430 –> 00:16:15.960
Kathy Gruver: And i’m sure you’ve had experiences like that, as well, if you if there’s any like things like that that you want to share some experiences you’ve had with animals, I would love to hear those.

00:16:16.440 –> 00:16:17.550
Heike Adam: Yes, yes.

00:16:18.600 –> 00:16:33.900
Heike Adam: it’s often when I talk with animals and have this clients showing up, then the the behavior of the enemas change, then, after that, and the clients are really impressed like was.

00:16:34.830 –> 00:16:49.050
Heike Adam: A dog, who was afraid of the dishwasher and yeah when it was running and and I talked with with the Doc and explained how a dishwasher works and how good it is.

00:16:50.130 –> 00:17:03.210
Heike Adam: Good health for four people and that he doesn’t need to be afraid of it and and then after I talked with him, he was sleeping next to the dishwasher when it was running and.

00:17:03.630 –> 00:17:22.500
Heike Adam: And this client was texting me and telling me, what did you do was I talking at the beginning, I was thinking oh wow what did I do what happened and then she said, it is sleeping is sleeping next to the dishwasher so it was really amazing.

00:17:24.420 –> 00:17:25.980
Heike Adam: To yeah.

00:17:26.190 –> 00:17:26.700
Jason Mefford: yeah cuz.

00:17:27.900 –> 00:17:33.090
Jason Mefford: These things happen, I mean it was it was not a month or month or month or two ago.

00:17:34.710 –> 00:17:41.730
Jason Mefford: One of our sons and his girlfriend they just got a dog, you know a lot of people got dogs during the whole block in.

00:17:42.780 –> 00:17:46.620
Jason Mefford: And it’s obvious that this dog has had some trauma.

00:17:46.860 –> 00:17:48.000
Jason Mefford: It was, it was a rescue.

00:17:48.000 –> 00:17:49.590
Jason Mefford: dog from the pound.

00:17:51.150 –> 00:18:05.310
Jason Mefford: Obviously, has some some trauma from before very skittish very scared of everything you know sort of thing, and I remember saying to myself, you know, we need a good doggie hypnotist or something right.

00:18:05.670 –> 00:18:07.080
Jason Mefford: to knock this out, but that’s.

00:18:07.590 –> 00:18:15.210
Jason Mefford: that’s kind of effectively what you’re doing is being able to communicate with the animals in a way that their owners.

00:18:15.780 –> 00:18:33.810
Jason Mefford: Maybe haven’t learned how to do it because the one thing that I got from you, you know I I was coming into this expecting oh you just have to have this gift you either have it, or you don’t but it’s something that you can learn as well to right but you’re just helping.

00:18:34.950 –> 00:18:38.460
Jason Mefford: Helping the owners helping the pats helping the wild animals.

00:18:39.690 –> 00:18:47.340
Jason Mefford: Because you, you can do that, and like that you can let them know look the dishwasher there’s nothing to be afraid of this is what it does, oh.

00:18:47.820 –> 00:18:56.250
Jason Mefford: Okay, all right, I don’t have to worry about that right, I mean that’s it seems like again that’s that’s kind of what you’re doing and being able to.

00:18:58.020 –> 00:19:00.930
Jason Mefford: take the place of what the owner probably wants.

00:19:01.140 –> 00:19:11.790
Jason Mefford: To communicate to them, but doesn’t have that energetic connection to be able to communicate sold us all right yeah right yes.

00:19:12.180 –> 00:19:24.270
Heike Adam: And I always say that everybody can learn it that we have this everybody has this gift and this ability just be we forgot about it when we.

00:19:24.270 –> 00:19:37.530
Heike Adam: When we are growing up and but everybody has this gift and testis ability just need to be retrained and freer and Africa everybody can really learn it.

00:19:40.200 –> 00:19:45.030
Heike Adam: it’s not that just some people can learn it it’s really good to know.

00:19:45.540 –> 00:19:52.260
Kathy Gruver: yeah that’s so great Is this something this might sound like a silly question is this something that you can turn on and off.

00:19:52.530 –> 00:20:00.990
Kathy Gruver: Or are you always on like are you just out sometimes and often the dog is talking to you and you’re like where’d that come from, I mean does that just come into you at all times.

00:20:01.770 –> 00:20:05.910
Heike Adam: No, no, usually not I really need to turn into it.

00:20:05.910 –> 00:20:15.540
Heike Adam: it’s not that it’s coming up in all the times and I really need to be in a in a special state like in a more relaxed state.

00:20:15.570 –> 00:20:27.450
Heike Adam: That it’s really coming to me and it’s often also easier when I do it at home, I do it with a photo usually which is easier because I can prepare myself.

00:20:27.450 –> 00:20:49.320
Heike Adam: I identify before I then I relax and then I talk this animal which is easier than being outside also when i’m outside despite animals is it doesn’t work all the time, sometimes I get something bag, but not all the time, so it’s easier to do it really.

00:20:50.430 –> 00:20:55.260
Kathy Gruver: is important yeah in a more structured environment yeah oh that’s fascinating cool.

00:20:55.830 –> 00:21:10.260
Jason Mefford: Well, but again, you have you have to prepare yourself right because again it’s the, as we said we’re not hearing it through our ears and so getting into that relaxed state doing some of the dance whatever you’re you’re you’re.

00:21:11.670 –> 00:21:22.710
Jason Mefford: going from 3D ego into the more intuitive part of you, because the intuitive part of us that is able to communicate.

00:21:23.730 –> 00:21:25.860
Jason Mefford: With the other things right.

00:21:26.370 –> 00:21:42.750
Heike Adam: visit Mr hard so I need to move from the brain into the heart and let I prepare, yes, like dancing moves me into this my into the heart and also relaxation like presenting and then and.

00:21:43.650 –> 00:21:56.460
Heike Adam: There are different brain waves it’s the ifr praying base and also frequency, I am, then, in which is more, this relaxation state and the enemas.

00:21:59.940 –> 00:22:10.500
Heike Adam: Also in this frequency, you should be in this alpha frequency and I also often say it’s like a radio frequency you turn.

00:22:11.070 –> 00:22:19.260
Heike Adam: Your radio into specific frequency in this is what I do this animal says, well, I need to prepare for it.

00:22:21.300 –> 00:22:28.800
Jason Mefford: yeah so it’s interesting that you say that right because yeah I mean i’m familiar with brainwaves and what’s interesting is at least what i’ve been.

00:22:29.250 –> 00:22:38.460
Jason Mefford: taught is that nature in general, the frequency is 7.83 hertz right of nature of the earth.

00:22:39.060 –> 00:22:55.530
Jason Mefford: Right yes that’s the Alpha theta state right so like you said you’re doing things to effectively slow down your brainwaves to where you’re in that state, and when you tune to that same hurts level.

00:22:56.160 –> 00:23:14.820
Jason Mefford: That nature is around you now we connect with the nature right and that’s yes that’s why some of these things that you talk about you know meditation dancing some of these other things are all different tools or practices that all of us can use.

00:23:14.910 –> 00:23:21.390
Jason Mefford: Right, yes to help us connect more with nature as well, yes.

00:23:22.170 –> 00:23:33.270
Heike Adam: yeah some other techniques, as well as the shamanic drumming on trump’s they also by preyed on this is.

00:23:34.470 –> 00:23:40.440
Heike Adam: A frequency as well, this is also something you can use to go into this state.

00:23:42.150 –> 00:23:42.570
Kathy Gruver: well.

00:23:46.560 –> 00:23:51.780
Kathy Gruver: that’s great do you have just maybe one tip for someone at home that’s sitting there with their.

00:23:52.020 –> 00:24:01.920
Kathy Gruver: Their dog or cat their pot bellied pig their guinea pig or hamster I mean do you have any just one tip that maybe someone can do just to connect more with their pet connect more with their animals at home.

00:24:03.510 –> 00:24:11.940
Heike Adam: Yes, I would say, just as I said, go more into this relaxation state and then.

00:24:13.020 –> 00:24:29.340
Heike Adam: Just start practicing and talking with the animal and see what what returns to you, but just go, why are pressing pressing our music into this relaxation and then talk let’s say an email and.

00:24:30.000 –> 00:24:39.150
Heike Adam: And just the open what’s coming from the enema because often be to not trust and what is coming back and just trusted.

00:24:42.120 –> 00:24:44.940
Heike Adam: yeah practice practice and practice.

00:24:45.060 –> 00:24:45.390

00:24:49.230 –> 00:25:01.320
Jason Mefford: yeah and I wanted to ask you another question on that too, because I know you know I looked at your website, because you have a website where people can reach out to you that will make sure and give to people, but you know, especially when you’re working with pets I know.

00:25:02.580 –> 00:25:09.780
Jason Mefford: Again, my Germans a little rusty, but I think I got the gist of it, you know is is that you need a picture that shows their eyes.

00:25:09.900 –> 00:25:20.640
Jason Mefford: Yes, and so I wanted to ask you a little bit about that because i’ve always been told to you know that the eyes are the seat of your soul, you know that, through the eyes, we really.

00:25:21.150 –> 00:25:30.720
Jason Mefford: can see into the other individual and i’m guessing this works with with animals to what, what is it about seeing into the eyes that way.

00:25:31.920 –> 00:25:36.030
Jason Mefford: You know, because again i’m kind of thinking like this skittish dog, you know in our family.

00:25:36.660 –> 00:25:38.040
Jason Mefford: It won’t want to look at me.

00:25:38.220 –> 00:25:51.810
Jason Mefford: And so, so like i’m trying i’m trying to get it to where i’m looking into its eyes right, and I think again, maybe it’s like I don’t want to talk to you I don’t want to talk to you and i’m like no, I want to talk to.

00:25:53.100 –> 00:25:59.370
Jason Mefford: You know kind of thing what what is it about that or How does that kind of fit into to a lot of this to.

00:25:59.820 –> 00:26:07.740
Heike Adam: Yes, it’s really what you said, like connecting businesses, so why have the eyes, then.

00:26:09.030 –> 00:26:24.900
Heike Adam: To deeply connect with a solid, why are, why are the the eyes and to the soul to the to the heart and that’s why I needed to see the eyes and otherwise.

00:26:26.070 –> 00:26:39.120
Heike Adam: It would welcome, but not so good man, I really connect really deeply with this is deeply to the heart to the soul, I can connect them this way of ice.

00:26:41.100 –> 00:26:52.110
Kathy Gruver: I love it I love it and, of course, we’re nearing the end of our time, because this is what we do, this has been so this I love this i’m so i’m looking over it allaster who’s sort of like.

00:26:53.250 –> 00:26:54.600
Kathy Gruver: So what we’ll chat later, but.

00:26:56.160 –> 00:26:58.440
Jason Mefford: y’all are talking about me, I want to hear.

00:26:58.590 –> 00:27:02.970
Kathy Gruver: yeah it’s interesting he actually when he wants attention he will bite.

00:27:03.840 –> 00:27:05.160
Kathy Gruver: Like he’ll nipping at your ankles.

00:27:05.190 –> 00:27:18.060
Kathy Gruver: And i’ve tried to explain to him i’m like please, and we want to give you attention we want to have your needs met, could you please stop fighting yeah he just walked that’s just what he started doing and so it’s like i’ll have to sit off to do some meditation and get into that state.

00:27:18.540 –> 00:27:22.410
Kathy Gruver: and explain to him that that’s not the way to communicate with us and.

00:27:22.590 –> 00:27:24.330
Kathy Gruver: Could he do something else, and you know so.

00:27:25.350 –> 00:27:27.420
Kathy Gruver: That will be my homework that’ll be my homework at the.

00:27:27.900 –> 00:27:30.930
Heike Adam: lighting and say that the animals.

00:27:30.960 –> 00:27:40.740
Heike Adam: understand us what we are saying, my other young via the frequency and the vibration again it’s not maybe the best they understand, but they.

00:27:41.070 –> 00:27:44.970
Heike Adam: They need the energy they either they understand what you’re saying.

00:27:45.600 –> 00:27:47.640
Jason Mefford: So yelling at your dog.

00:27:47.670 –> 00:27:49.470
Jason Mefford: doesn’t communicate to them.

00:27:50.400 –> 00:27:51.990
Heike Adam: Not the best idea.

00:27:52.710 –> 00:27:57.210
Jason Mefford: So it’s it’s more about us getting aligned and trying to align with them.

00:27:58.320 –> 00:28:05.160
Jason Mefford: to really be able to communicate, not the way that we’re communicating because, just like if they’re barking at us, we don’t know what they’re saying from the bar.

00:28:06.330 –> 00:28:08.640
Jason Mefford: Right, so why would we expect them to.

00:28:08.820 –> 00:28:10.020
Jason Mefford: to know what we’re saying.

00:28:10.080 –> 00:28:10.590

00:28:12.030 –> 00:28:13.350
Kathy Gruver: Yes, good play.

00:28:15.030 –> 00:28:32.610
Jason Mefford: Interesting one so many different well and I wanted to kind of ask to you know because I know we’re we’re kind of running out of time, but this is true for all animals as well right because again i’ve i’ve as i’ve been connecting more with nature.

00:28:33.810 –> 00:28:39.330
Jason Mefford: there’s certain animals that we don’t consider animals or we don’t want around.

00:28:39.480 –> 00:28:41.460
Jason Mefford: Right and I, and I remember, there was this.

00:28:42.570 –> 00:28:43.980
Jason Mefford: There were a couple of flies.

00:28:44.550 –> 00:28:45.720
Heike Adam: That we’re flying around me.

00:28:45.810 –> 00:28:48.270
Jason Mefford: And normally we’re like you know get away get away get.

00:28:48.270 –> 00:28:51.540
Jason Mefford: away get away right and then, and then I thought you know.

00:28:52.980 –> 00:28:56.670
Jason Mefford: How are they any different than any other, and I.

00:28:56.700 –> 00:28:58.080
Jason Mefford: And maybe they’re here.

00:28:58.920 –> 00:29:07.080
Jason Mefford: For a purpose that I didn’t quite understand, and so, if I let them land on me and just do what they need to do.

00:29:09.330 –> 00:29:13.320
Jason Mefford: But I guess that’s where I was going it’s not just the cute squirrels and the cute.

00:29:13.320 –> 00:29:14.820
Kathy Gruver: cats and the dogs yes.

00:29:14.820 –> 00:29:25.500
Jason Mefford: Like yes, even the cockroaches and the ads and the rats in the everything we’re we’re all connected and there’s a reason.

00:29:25.500 –> 00:29:25.980
Heike Adam: Right.

00:29:26.280 –> 00:29:27.840
Jason Mefford: yeah all the stuff I think right.

00:29:28.020 –> 00:29:39.240
Heike Adam: Sure, yes, and this is awesome what I realized was doing animal communication that I have this appreciation for for any laws were free and Emma.

00:29:39.810 –> 00:29:48.420
Heike Adam: Like the spiders and rights and flies and I would not be able to to kill them like the spiders or something like that.

00:29:49.290 –> 00:30:10.470
Heike Adam: I talked to them and then I print them outside and show them a nice when I talk with them was animal communication I show them a green grass and that they have many, many insects outside and then the champion to a class or part I have, and then I bring them outside.

00:30:12.000 –> 00:30:12.990
Heike Adam: really great.

00:30:15.090 –> 00:30:18.720
Kathy Gruver: We relocated our spiders as well yeah I said yeah.

00:30:20.400 –> 00:30:30.720
Kathy Gruver: I love this conversation, so how can people reach you, what is your website, how can they get Ahold of you, if they want to learn to do this talk to you more or have you do a session and talk to their animal.

00:30:31.230 –> 00:30:40.680
Heike Adam: Yes, it’s I have an instagram handle Scott is chairman name I should mention block I can yeah.

00:30:41.970 –> 00:30:44.070
Heike Adam: My extended, are you Michelle I.

00:30:45.930 –> 00:30:47.970
Jason Mefford: want us to put it in the church yeah.

00:30:48.600 –> 00:30:54.900
Heike Adam: yeah and also my homepage is also just my last name hi dad dot.

00:30:56.010 –> 00:31:05.970
Heike Adam: d that’s my homepage and it’s also in English, so I have many clients in English and in from from US, Canada.

00:31:07.980 –> 00:31:10.830
Jason Mefford: It was just have fun for me to try to practice my German again.

00:31:14.550 –> 00:31:15.090
Kathy Gruver: joyful for a.

00:31:15.120 –> 00:31:15.690
SEC so.

00:31:18.780 –> 00:31:30.870
Kathy Gruver: This has been great Oh, thank you, thank you so much for being here i’m so inspired to actually reconnect with the animals I I did it look a little bit and then it’s just sort of fell off, as you know, so many things do so you’ve inspired me to get back in that.

00:31:30.870 –> 00:31:31.410
Kathy Gruver: State and.

00:31:32.160 –> 00:31:45.240
Kathy Gruver: Talk to the animals so i’m very excited and I hope people get a lot out of this it’s something that you can explore, something that is real so thanks everyone for listening reach out to Heikki learn more i’m Kathy Gruber, I can be reached at Kathy Gruber calm.

00:31:45.840 –> 00:31:49.380
Jason Mefford: And i’m Jason effort, I can be reached at Jason so yeah.

00:31:50.070 –> 00:31:58.050
Jason Mefford: You know just just take a pause this week, do something a little different look at the nature that’s around you and just try to connect more with it because.

00:31:58.560 –> 00:32:07.710
Jason Mefford: we’re all connected anyway right and so with that have a great rest of your week everybody and we’ll catch you on the next episode of the fire and earth podcast so yeah.

00:32:08.190 –> 00:32:09.930
Heike Adam: yeah Thank you, thank you.

Leave a comment