In today’s #jammingwithjason #podcast I talk with my friend Gina Hansen about her experience when the rug got pulled out from under her life. When you listen to this entire episode you will learn all that Gina experienced in the span of six months, and how she was able to find her voice again. An amazing story!

Going from feeling sad and alone to feeling peaceful bliss, and enjoying the beauty that surrounds her. It’s a great reminder to live every day, laugh, smell the roses, and live in an environment that allows you to heal physically, emotionally, and spiritually… something we all desperately need.

I’m sure you are already preparing financially for retirement (or whatever the next phase of your life will bring), but are you preparing emotionally and connecting with your real identity or living someone else’s expectation of your life?

When you hear reference to “TCP” during the episode that is the Transformational Coaching Program with Jim Fortin, where Gina and I met.


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Jason Mefford: Welcome to another episode of jamming with Jason hey today I am excited because i’m talking to my friend gina Hansen.

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Jason Mefford: And I will tell you gina is one of the people that every time I see her I just light up and smile and want to laugh she is one of the most fun people that I know.

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Jason Mefford: So make sure to listen to this entire episode because you’re going to have a good time listening and you’re also going to learn a lot.

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Jason Mefford: Because gina has some pretty amazing stories that you’re going to want to stick around and listen to and so without further ado let’s get right into that episode with gina.

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Jason Mefford: All right, gina how you doing.

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Jason Mefford: Oh no I know it’s it’s it’s funny because it’s you know that one of the nice things about actually being stuck at home is we get to talk to people all over the world right that we normally wouldn’t so you know California to Hawaii today right.

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Jason Mefford: So, yes aloha and belated milliken leaky maka right it’s.

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Gina Hansen: Very rocky kiko.

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Jason Mefford: yeah we were going off on that a little bit before so so welcome, I mean like a like I said before in the intro you are one of the people that just every time I see you, and you can you talk and your smile is infectious right, I mean you’ve got energy girl you make me happy.

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Gina Hansen: You make me happy.

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Jason Mefford: Well, I hope so, with my bad jokes and everything else right.

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Jason Mefford: Now it’s like I said it’s you know I know a little bit about your story, and I want to, I want to get into that because I think it’s important.

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Jason Mefford: You know, as we both gone through you know we get to a certain point in our life when there’s probably fewer years ahead of us, then we’ve already lived right.

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Jason Mefford: i’m at that point in my life.

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Jason Mefford: That you’re still 29.

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I know.

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Jason Mefford: But you know I I know your story because you’re sometimes we we live our life everything’s kind of going along fine we grow up we become adults, but then somewhere in the middle of our life, sometimes life kind of blows up, and I know it was kind of that way for you.

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Jason Mefford: A little while ago.

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Jason Mefford: So maybe just kind of give some context to people, you know what were you doing what kind of happened because I think there’s a lot of lessons and learnings here for other people that might be going through maybe not exactly the same thing, but something similar in their own life.

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Gina Hansen: Okay wow I had.

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Gina Hansen: A pretty interesting thing happened to me in 2020 it was actually a cluster of.

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Gina Hansen: crazy life of people that I went through, starting with the beginning the beginning of the year, I.

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Gina Hansen: was having I finally had the courage to ask my husband for divorce, and that was a very difficult thing for me to do to own that.

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Gina Hansen: The conversation started in you know, six months before that saying, maybe we shouldn’t be separated and and yet I couldn’t say the D word saying that word was just.

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Gina Hansen: really, really, really, the hardest thing i’ve ever had to do because I knew that by putting myself out there, I would have to.

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Gina Hansen: To be vulnerable in a way, financially what am I going to do where, am I going to live, what about my son, you know all of these things like thinking of other people to.

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Gina Hansen: Not just myself like now i’m going to be.

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Gina Hansen: tearing our families apart, and so it was such a big hard decision for me to make, but I finally had the courage to say it and to let it out and it felt like such a relief to just finally really exhale and say it’s out it’s it’s passed my lips, I can’t take it back, well then.

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Gina Hansen: Four days later, I found out that I had cancer and thyroid cancer capillary thyroid cancer, and I was shocked, because I had lived such a healthy life and.

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Gina Hansen: I did didn’t even anticipate hearing those words and now I am thinking, what am I going to do, because right away the doctor said it’s the best cancer, if I had cancer, this is the cancer that I would want to have.

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Jason Mefford: Well yeah you love it when a doctor says that right if you’re going to have cancer that’s the one day i’d.

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Jason Mefford: rather not have the answer, but thank you very much.

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Gina Hansen: yeah so he told me that and then right away, he was going to send me to a supposition to get it actually just a surgeon to get it removed completely.

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Gina Hansen: And I put the brakes on and I said oh whoa whoa whoa and I ended up deciding to go to Mexico and get holistic integrative treatments, so it was a combination of both Western and holistic practices and in the course of three weeks the tumors shank.

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Gina Hansen: They were the treatment was working I was introduced to a variety of different modalities and techniques and nutrition and it was just.

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Gina Hansen: Lifestyle practices, it was such an amazing beautiful experience i’m so blessed to have have had that opportunity to see things see healing in a different light.

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Gina Hansen: And then I also realized, as I was telling you earlier Jason is.

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Gina Hansen: This setup is not like a hospital it’s like a resort where you’re on the beach you’ve got the most amazing sunsets whales jumping off your balcony you can see in the surfers and.

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Gina Hansen: catching the last waves of the day it was just such a beautiful peaceful environment to heal and lots of people there.

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Gina Hansen: from all over the world, different ethnicities and things coming to be treated in Mexico.

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Gina Hansen: And I learned from that experience that the one of the most important things that helps me heal is my environment and having the peaceful surroundings.

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Gina Hansen: To to be able to just focus on me and heal and so when I got home instead of continuing the practice is that i’ve learned, while I was in Mexico, I decided to remove my thyroid and follow the advice, the original advice of.

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Gina Hansen: The surgeon, so I removed it and a week later, I moved out from my husband and I was i’ve been separated ever since and.

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Gina Hansen: This has been such the probably the best experience for me to be alone lots of quiet time lots of reflection lots of self love and that was just exactly what I needed in healing.

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Gina Hansen: being separated finding empowerment in my own, and then the next month, so this is like the six six months of of all this happening.

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Gina Hansen: I decide to take an early retirement from my airline career may have been a flight attendant for 20 years.

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Gina Hansen: I loved my job I love my lifestyle I love traveling and visiting people on layovers and eating really cool place a place places.

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Gina Hansen: You know, and having different ethnicity ethnic foods and things I just loved it, but then opportunity came and I decided to just grab it, even though I had no idea what I would do for work after.

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Gina Hansen: So that brought me to tcp where I met you and Jim Jim fortunes Community group coaching environment where.

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Gina Hansen: I got to tap into who am I, what are my values, who you know what is the life that I want to live and starting to see a vision of my future that I had never.

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Gina Hansen: never thought of before like what do I want and how do I want to live so i’m so happy and blessed to have met you and all this, these amazing coaches and participants from all over the world and.

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Gina Hansen: It was the best thing I could have done at the right time for me.

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Jason Mefford: Well it’s it’s you know because I want to dig into you you just gave us a lot.

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Gina Hansen: Sorry, no, no, no that’s exactly.

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Jason Mefford: What what it should be right so let’s kind of unpack some of it because.

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Jason Mefford: You know, again people that are listening You used a few words here to use the word courage.

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Jason Mefford: Right, so at the beginning, when you were afraid to say, the D word.

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Jason Mefford: Yes, and it’s not damn, by the way for.

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Jason Mefford: Those divorce right right but it took courage.

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Jason Mefford: To actually say that and and I think you know your your story is is not that different from other people right, and again I mean, I want to talk about you, but I you probably didn’t know to I you know.

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Jason Mefford: 1012 years ago now, all within the space of about six months as well.

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Jason Mefford: yeah I had panic attack.

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Jason Mefford: Divorce lost my job, I mean it’s like all of this stuff happened within just a few months for me.

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Jason Mefford: As well right, and so, if you and I have both experienced this other people have experienced that too right.

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Jason Mefford: And having all of that stuff gets shoved into such a short time period.

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Jason Mefford: kind of makes you feel a little overwhelmed a lot of times right and feel like my gosh nobody else’s is dealing with this, but a lot of people are.

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Jason Mefford: And so I wanted to go back because, like I said you use the word courage when you were talking about you know i’m guessing that probably for a while you hadn’t been happy in your marriage.

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Jason Mefford: you’ve been thinking about this, but what what was holding you back from actually having the courage to actually stand up and say what you wanted.

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Gina Hansen: Well, my son was had one more year before of high school before you know he graduated and so.

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Gina Hansen: I was thinking of other people like let’s just wait until he graduates and then you know he’ll be gone it’s better for everyone.

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Gina Hansen: But then I stopped myself, and I said, like you, we were talking earlier, how you know, life is not guaranteed, and so I shouldn’t just put my life on hold for for someone else so that’s why I waited.

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Gina Hansen: so long to within struggled with this internal.

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Gina Hansen: This you know unhappiness and resentment came to who you know, there was a lot of emotions, but basically this kind of ties into what I do now is my husband and I had.

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Gina Hansen: kind of a wall up between us, if you like, it and in truthfully it’s an energy about a wall of energy that was blocking us from fully connecting with each other and I knew that was the reason.

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Gina Hansen: When you know when he would kiss me goodbye his body would be like 20 feet behind and it just his lips will be like you know, like he was just like.

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Jason Mefford: There was a physical, but also an energetic.

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Jason Mefford: boundary kind of between the two of you.

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Gina Hansen: Yes, yeah there was a it wasn’t it was all show and no love really and.

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Gina Hansen: I could feel that in in our interactions where, if you can imagine that and so.

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Gina Hansen: As I was finding myself after that whole all of this happen, and I now I had to find myself what I want to do what what am I going to do next in my life.

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Gina Hansen: I came upon a book that described exactly my relationship with my husband and they called it a hartwall like an energy hartwall.

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Gina Hansen: And it what it is, and I don’t know if you know about this, but our subconscious mind actually remembers everything from our whole life even things from past lives that we’ve brought in, and so what it does, is it actually when we don’t experience completely.

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Gina Hansen: Any time in our life say like divorce or parent dies or something if we don’t truly experience it and feel it and let it pass through us and it actually these energies these emotions get trapped in our body and.

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Gina Hansen: Over time, it leads to pain inflammation and disease and because it’s an imbalance of our functions of like our lymph or blood flow gets disrupted because of these energies that gets stuck in our body and so.

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Gina Hansen: Our subconscious will gather up all of these energies and put it around our heart to protect us.

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Gina Hansen: So it’s meant to be a good, safe, you know safety for safety reasons, but what it does, is it blocks us from being our truest essence and it blocks us from having deep connected relationships so over the years.

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Gina Hansen: This dissociation or this my husband started to just be unemotional and it’s because a lot of things, he was experiencing a lot of things he helped his father pass.

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Gina Hansen: You know so dealing with that death of his of his father.

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Gina Hansen: And he was on a business trip once and the coworker that he was traveling with died, and he had to go in this in a foreign country yet to go and identify the body and prepare for his friend to.

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Gina Hansen: To come back to the to Hawaii and so, and a lot of other things that emotionally started to harden him hardened his heart, and so I know that, in essence, even.

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Gina Hansen: Maybe there was probably I did probably a couple of bad things in our relationship, but a lot of it was other people other experiences he had of life that were blocking us from having a happy healthy marriage so.

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Jason Mefford: Well it’s interesting because as you’re talking about that, I mean it’s it’s you know I often thinking in musical lyrics and movie quotes to and so i’ve got going hard and my.

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Jason Mefford: song goes through my head right anyway, but.

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Jason Mefford: But it’s interesting as you as you talk about that right because, again, you know and for everybody listening, whether you realize it or not.

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Jason Mefford: Right what we’re talking about is actually what physiologically happens in people’s bodies right, and so, just as you were talking about you know some of the experiences that your husband had had.

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Jason Mefford: That were some of these things that may be never got fully fully dealt with right and we’re showing up as as this pain and inflammation other things in our body.

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Jason Mefford: You were probably experiencing some of those same things right, because, as we live right there’s just these experiences that we have.

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Jason Mefford: I mean, as you were talking i’m sitting there thinking to myself to.

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Jason Mefford: yeah right, I mean anytime you get a divorce it’s not like well alright, everything was fine yesterday, but today we’re going to be we’re going to get divorced right it’s.

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Jason Mefford: it’s there’s stuff that leads up to it right over years I mean once I was finally loose of that relationship and looked back it was like.

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Jason Mefford: Man I knew I knew seven years ago it’s like why the Fuck that I hang out for seven years right.

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Jason Mefford: I knew but it’s interesting you know again because, as we each have our own life experience if we’re not dealing with in processing some of these emotions, it does kind of harden us from being able to have you know real connection with other people even your partner or spouse as well.

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Gina Hansen: Exactly and even for me like I know actually know when I started started.

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Gina Hansen: Having cancer in my body, and it was a day before I got married like I literally have a picture of me shutting myself down.

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Gina Hansen: And the reason was we were had a celebration before our wedding and we were going to say a prayer you know before we ate and my husband said, let me pray because whenever you pray you go on and on and on.

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Gina Hansen: And so I shut my voice down.

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Gina Hansen: I literally said okay i’m going to be the good wife i’m not gonna i’m gonna let him, you know do.

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Gina Hansen: You know, take it take control of our relationship and i’m not going to you know be myself really so that’s what started that’s why this this problem here with the thyroid and that cancer is is really a lesson for me into knowing and speaking my truth and.

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Gina Hansen: I believe that every time we have an ache in our body or problem disease or illness it’s there’s a message in it for us there’s some kind of lesson that we are meant to learn around something.

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Jason Mefford: Well it’s interesting because you know, again, as you were talking about that and.

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Jason Mefford: Effectively subjugating yourself to your husband, the day you got married and losing your voice.

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Jason Mefford: right as you’re trying to be a good wife.

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Jason Mefford: yeah isn’t it interesting that that’s where the cancer showed up.

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Jason Mefford: Exactly because you lost your own.

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Jason Mefford: voice and that’s where it showed up right and, and again I mean some some people listening might be going you guys are a little crazy here but.

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Jason Mefford: You know, again, I mean I know lots of people that are therapists you know hypnotherapist.

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Jason Mefford: Doctors other people and I don’t know how many stories i’ve heard from people, just like you were you know, in fact, one of my friends one of one of her clients said something like and i’ve really got this pain in my neck right and so she’s also a coach and she says well who’s your pain.

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Jason Mefford: john.

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Jason Mefford: And the person didn’t even realize it, but it was.

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Jason Mefford: You know, again, it was some relationship issue with a particular person that was showing up as pain in that person’s neck.

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Jason Mefford: yeah and just really, really interesting.

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Jason Mefford: right that those things happen, a lot of times.

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Jason Mefford: What we think are just aches and pains of growing older.

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Jason Mefford: could be much, much, much deeper.

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Gina Hansen: than that.

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Gina Hansen: Right and everything is energy and especially our thoughts create our emotions and we are emotional beings so in our body there’s at least 100 most people have at least 100 trapped emotions.

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Gina Hansen: Because, not only are these emotions things that we experience in our lives, we also absorb emotions from people we don’t even know our animals environments houses and things all because everything is energy.

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Gina Hansen: And then we inherit emotions, we share them right now we have you know, a global pandemic so we’re sharing fear we’re sharing lack of control.

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Gina Hansen: And things like that so there’s so and then we we even bring in emotions from previous lives and and that sounds a little odd to some people, but.

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Gina Hansen: yeah we actually the lessons that we haven’t learned in other times that we’ve we’ve experienced life we actually bring them in because we’re trying we’re trying to learn them.

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Jason Mefford: So that we keep them we keep having those same lessons until we finally end up learning.

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Gina Hansen: Right exactly.

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Gina Hansen: yeah yeah.

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Jason Mefford: Well, and so I wanted to this this kind of ties in a little bit to this whole idea of you kind of losing your voice right when you kind of became the good wife.

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Gina Hansen: Yes.

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Jason Mefford: I think it was a TV show about that too right.

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Jason Mefford: Why, for this is what good wives do right.

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Jason Mefford: But but what’s interesting is is, I think you know, again as as I get older I kind of see this more and more right where we we tend to identify or create our own identity of who we are right and that usually.

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Jason Mefford: Is exhibited in the environment around us, and I want it we’re going to get into that environment more.

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Jason Mefford: too, because I want to, I want to dig into that more, but the reason that I was kind of going there is.

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Jason Mefford: You get married you have an idea of what the good life is, you have a son, you have an idea of what you know, being a good mom is.

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Jason Mefford: You know, to the point to where you, you know.

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Jason Mefford: Thought before Well, no, we can’t get divorce, because that’s not going to be good for my son and i’m a good mothers, so I can’t say that right.

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Jason Mefford: Right, you had a 28 year career as a flight attendant as well right so so i’m guessing you know, again as you’ve gone through your adulthood, by the way, I don’t know how you could be 20 years when you’re only 29 years old.

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Jason Mefford: I can’t do math.

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Jason Mefford: But you know I wanted to talk a little bit about that too, because.

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Gina Hansen: You.

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Gina Hansen: Know you’re just kidding.

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Jason Mefford: You never talk about a woman’s age right, I know.

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Jason Mefford: That, I know that but.

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Jason Mefford: But you know how as we get older, we have all this identity kind of stuff wrapped in right and so as you had all of this stuff kind of pulled out from underneath you.

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Jason Mefford: mean yes you’re still a mom you know that that doesn’t change, but now you’re no longer wife, because you’re divorced you’re no longer a flight attendant, which is what you had done for so long in your life right.

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Jason Mefford: And I, and I see a lot of people, myself included, that a lot of times we get kind of into this mid life and sometimes the rug gets pulled out from underneath this.

00:23:08.400 –> 00:23:10.860
Jason Mefford: So, how did you kind of deal with that.

00:23:11.460 –> 00:23:21.900
Jason Mefford: Whole identity thing, as well as you’re kind of pushing through and dealing with all of these things that you’re that you were going through as well how did you get through.

00:23:22.320 –> 00:23:27.990
Jason Mefford: Well, I know a lot of people kind of crumble Oh, I would have if I didn’t if I wasn’t in tcp it.

00:23:28.230 –> 00:23:39.990
Gina Hansen: that’s why I say tcp just it was exactly what I needed at that, at that time, and yet I was going through a depression, I laid on that couch over there, during my first round at tcp because.

00:23:41.460 –> 00:23:53.280
Gina Hansen: I yeah I was so so I have I had reason to feel this way because I was healing in more ways than you know physical, emotional and the whole deal but i’m.

00:23:53.850 –> 00:24:10.110
Gina Hansen: In tcp we are provided with a way to reflect back on who we are and also create through using workshop of the mind and other imaginative and hypnosis and different.

00:24:10.530 –> 00:24:26.100
Gina Hansen: You know tools that were given to to start to identify with, who is the person that you want to be and start to work backwards from that so everything that I needed to get my life back in order was in tcp yeah.

00:24:26.730 –> 00:24:39.780
Jason Mefford: Well, and so again, so if you because I know Jamie and I are in the same coaching program called transformational coaching program by Jim 14 Fo RT I am so we’ve got the references there but yeah because a lot of it, it gets back to.

00:24:41.220 –> 00:24:43.110
Jason Mefford: reprogramming your identity.

00:24:43.590 –> 00:24:44.640
Jason Mefford: More who you are.

00:24:45.000 –> 00:24:49.680
Jason Mefford: And kind of coming back to what really is most important to you right.

00:24:50.010 –> 00:24:50.550
Gina Hansen: yeah.

00:24:50.670 –> 00:24:55.290
Jason Mefford: And I think we’re no different a lot of people wake up and are kind of like who am I.

00:24:55.920 –> 00:25:08.250
Gina Hansen: Yes, exactly, and so one of the things that we do is we work on identifying what are our values, you know, and then, what are the values that will bring us closer to the person that we want to be.

00:25:08.760 –> 00:25:18.630
Gina Hansen: So we get to really be more intentional with the life that we want to create, which is not how I was living so.

00:25:19.110 –> 00:25:42.090
Gina Hansen: I was just living la la la and now, and now I actually have more vision of my future and how I see myself is kind of just as I truly Am I didn’t I didn’t have this this foresight, or this knowledge of, who I wasn’t what I wanted before joining that Program.

00:25:43.230 –> 00:25:45.240
Jason Mefford: And so really it’s kind of I mean.

00:25:47.010 –> 00:25:52.050
Jason Mefford: You know, again for for for terms that maybe people outside of the program might understand.

00:25:52.170 –> 00:25:52.770
Jason Mefford: That some.

00:25:53.610 –> 00:26:07.110
Jason Mefford: Self reflection right a lot of times mid life we start to reflect more on what we’ve done what we haven’t done right that’s where the idea of a bucket list comes from of hey these are things that I still want to do right.

00:26:08.130 –> 00:26:21.120
Jason Mefford: But but also just kind of figuring out, you know who are you and what do you actually value right because, especially when things when things get pulled out from underneath you.

00:26:21.690 –> 00:26:38.610
Jason Mefford: Then you have to start questioning certain things, and sometimes that can be pretty tough, especially if most of our identity is wrapped up in being a wife, being a husband, being a mother, being a father right.

00:26:39.660 –> 00:26:48.060
Jason Mefford: You know, having a particular job or a particular career or whatever else it might be when that no longer is there.

00:26:49.530 –> 00:26:50.730
Jason Mefford: A lot of times we crumble.

00:26:51.150 –> 00:26:54.630
Gina Hansen: Right and and can I tell you one of the things I learned at.

00:26:54.720 –> 00:27:04.230
Gina Hansen: Towards the end, this is probably three or four months into this program that that I was in with you, I learned.

00:27:05.340 –> 00:27:16.230
Gina Hansen: That I wasn’t the only one suffering with this depression that we there was hundreds of us at the airlines that were somewhat forced out, you know we didn’t.

00:27:16.500 –> 00:27:25.620
Gina Hansen: We weren’t shooting the flight attendants that we love this lifestyle so much that we stay till we’re at 90 years old and we actually use our beverage card as a Walker.

00:27:27.690 –> 00:27:29.790
Jason Mefford: I had some flight attendants like that yeah.

00:27:29.940 –> 00:27:47.160
Gina Hansen: Okay ready, so what I did what I learned through my coaching program experiences that I can help other people, because I figured out that we are attached to the identity of who we were and so much so, we were attached to the suffering.

00:27:48.210 –> 00:27:56.220
Gina Hansen: We create our suffering because of the expectations of and the connections to our past instead of creating the future that we want.

00:27:56.880 –> 00:28:04.200
Gina Hansen: So what I started to do was after this this experience on my own is I created a program for the flight attendants.

00:28:04.560 –> 00:28:15.300
Gina Hansen: so that they can learn some of these tools that I did to help me pick pick me up from my depression and get me, you know in into thinking about who I wanted to be so.

00:28:15.720 –> 00:28:30.060
Gina Hansen: I learned a lot from tcp because I was able to start to share it with other people and help them pull them up from feeling like you know that there’s that’s all that’s who they were and then now what you know so.

00:28:30.090 –> 00:28:39.720
Gina Hansen: I think, especially in retirement, you know a lot of the people that I am young enough to work, I need to work more instill in you know my 50s but.

00:28:40.110 –> 00:28:50.280
Gina Hansen: A lot of the people that I was working with are you know of retirement age and they don’t they didn’t want to slow down, they wanted to continue going and traveling and.

00:28:50.730 –> 00:29:03.540
Gina Hansen: And yet, their connections were because they were so connected to their jobs and always going they didn’t have roots in their Community they didn’t have relationships.

00:29:03.960 –> 00:29:14.340
Gina Hansen: At home, to satisfy them so yeah there’s a lot, I mean I learned through this experience is that, from the time I started working.

00:29:14.790 –> 00:29:25.320
Gina Hansen: I was told prepare for retirement save money, pay for your 401k financially be ready for retirement and what I learned through my experiences.

00:29:25.770 –> 00:29:40.170
Gina Hansen: You need to prepare emotionally for this separation of the person that you have identified with for a good portion of your life because it’s so important for you to to be aware that there’s going to be.

00:29:41.370 –> 00:29:49.620
Gina Hansen: This awkward gap after you retire and you’re trying to figure out what does my day look like because I don’t need to wake up at 5am anymore.

00:29:49.980 –> 00:30:01.140
Gina Hansen: What do I, what do I want to do what makes me happy what fills me with joy, how can I still serve you know So these are some some insight that I got through my experience.

00:30:02.070 –> 00:30:05.760
Jason Mefford: But it’s funny because you know, like you said it’s it’s.

00:30:08.280 –> 00:30:13.800
Jason Mefford: You know, through most of our adult life, we have a certain identity of who we are.

00:30:14.820 –> 00:30:17.310
Jason Mefford: And for most of us that are that work.

00:30:18.090 –> 00:30:22.950
Jason Mefford: That typically is in whatever our job vocation profession happens to be.

00:30:23.340 –> 00:30:30.540
Jason Mefford: Right, and so we spend all of our time and energy on that and when that no longer is there.

00:30:31.950 –> 00:30:33.810
Jason Mefford: We got nothing we got nothing.

00:30:34.110 –> 00:30:34.380
Gina Hansen: yeah.

00:30:35.280 –> 00:30:39.210
Jason Mefford: If you will I mean so so how many times, you know.

00:30:40.920 –> 00:30:49.260
Jason Mefford: With divorce, as an example right yes there’s divorce early on, but a lot of times, once the kids leave the House.

00:30:50.370 –> 00:30:57.960
Jason Mefford: there’s a lot of divorce that happens at that point too right because you both would you know kind of had a common.

00:30:58.380 –> 00:31:15.570
Jason Mefford: goal of raising the kids you’ve you’ve both been kind of often doing your own thing you know we kind of separate duties and you do this, and I do that, and then the kids leave the House and you realize we don’t have anything in common anymore.

00:31:16.320 –> 00:31:19.590
Jason Mefford: Right and we haven’t actually liked each other for quite a while.

00:31:19.830 –> 00:31:20.310
You know.

00:31:22.080 –> 00:31:31.440
Jason Mefford: And because that’s our whole identity and then, when it’s gone we don’t know what to do, or if you spent 20 years doing the same thing for a job.

00:31:32.910 –> 00:31:42.510
Jason Mefford: And now all of a sudden, you don’t have that we feel a little lost because we’re not doing some of those other things we don’t have those roots in our Community.

00:31:43.020 –> 00:32:00.480
Jason Mefford: We don’t often have those outside hobbies or interests right as well because we’re so focused on whatever those other things happened to be and when they go away it’s like our whole world seems to go away at that point.

00:32:01.260 –> 00:32:04.710
Gina Hansen: Right crumbles your whole life crumbles around you.

00:32:06.210 –> 00:32:06.570
Gina Hansen: yeah.

00:32:08.130 –> 00:32:13.500
Gina Hansen: You know it my son just left for college and you know this, a few months ago and.

00:32:15.540 –> 00:32:20.880
Gina Hansen: it’s being you know, in the position i’m in now it’s so quiet and.

00:32:22.110 –> 00:32:31.260
Gina Hansen: it’s hard to adjust to the quiet, to the to the idea that I don’t have to cook for anyone anymore it’s just me, you know so.

00:32:32.580 –> 00:32:41.910
Gina Hansen: yeah there’s also a lot of learning in life through through relationships, especially yeah.

00:32:42.780 –> 00:32:50.220
Jason Mefford: yeah well and and I wanted to come back to what we were talking before about you know this environment right because.

00:32:51.360 –> 00:32:53.550
Jason Mefford: I was actually having an exchange with somebody.

00:32:54.870 –> 00:32:56.280
Jason Mefford: Online social media.

00:32:56.970 –> 00:32:57.600
Jason Mefford: You know where I.

00:32:58.080 –> 00:32:58.860
Jason Mefford: put out a.

00:32:59.910 –> 00:33:13.440
Jason Mefford: can’t remember exactly what the message was but they kind of came back and said yeah you know i’m i’m really trying to do that, but right you always know there’s something coming when somebody says, but.

00:33:13.740 –> 00:33:14.370
Right yeah.

00:33:15.540 –> 00:33:16.470
You know, buying.

00:33:18.090 –> 00:33:19.050
Jason Mefford: don’t I yeah I know.

00:33:19.560 –> 00:33:23.370
Jason Mefford: taught me on that one before there’s no button there’s no trying.

00:33:24.570 –> 00:33:25.680
Jason Mefford: But but.

00:33:25.740 –> 00:33:26.280
But but.

00:33:27.540 –> 00:33:27.990
Jason Mefford: But.

00:33:29.580 –> 00:33:33.150
Jason Mefford: The point was right is yeah I get it.

00:33:35.550 –> 00:33:37.230
Gina Hansen: By just reconnecting.

00:33:37.710 –> 00:33:49.530
Jason Mefford: there’s other people in my life let’s say that are holding the back or the environment that I am doesn’t, allow me to be or do what I really want to do.

00:33:51.870 –> 00:34:04.890
Jason Mefford: And you know I know we’ve we know about that too, you know and in the fact that you know, for you to actually heal and kind of move into this next phase of your life.

00:34:06.300 –> 00:34:07.440
Jason Mefford: You had to actually.

00:34:08.550 –> 00:34:16.830
Jason Mefford: either voluntarily remove yourself from the environment or you get volunteered right like you’ve got volunteered.

00:34:17.490 –> 00:34:30.150
Jason Mefford: yeah the airline right it’s like we’re gonna make it we want, we want this group of people to leave so we’re going to make it so you leave right we’re going to give you enough money or whatever it is, and you’re out the door.

00:34:30.420 –> 00:34:30.750

00:34:32.220 –> 00:34:43.500
Jason Mefford: So let’s talk a little bit about about environment that way and how important that actually is, if you’re trying to make a change or you’re trying to do something different.

00:34:47.280 –> 00:34:55.230
Jason Mefford: This does that mean again just because you would kind of said before right that that you realized after you left your marriage.

00:34:56.910 –> 00:35:00.300
Jason Mefford: That you needed a different environment to be able to heal.

00:35:00.930 –> 00:35:06.630
Gina Hansen: They well what I what I found in that.

00:35:07.770 –> 00:35:10.530
Gina Hansen: Is it’s a combination of.

00:35:11.580 –> 00:35:20.460
Gina Hansen: Peaceful bliss and loneliness it’s like you’re kind of juggling these two two things because.

00:35:21.480 –> 00:35:22.590
Gina Hansen: you’re all alone.

00:35:24.030 –> 00:35:36.720
Gina Hansen: Well, I was, I was all alone, and so there was a lot of loneliness because my son was not with me all the time he was between us and so there’s a lot of sadness, for it for that.

00:35:37.440 –> 00:36:02.070
Gina Hansen: connection with people that I didn’t have plus it was a pandemic, then and I wasn’t working so I had no other stimulating like relationship stimulus going on, but also on the opposite side the freedom and the peace of being able to experience my morning ritual, you know my morning routine.

00:36:03.840 –> 00:36:19.470
Gina Hansen: And the sun, the birds in them sunrise and you know just the beauty of the beauty that surrounds me here, naturally, and so it was a combination and I and and so over time.

00:36:20.880 –> 00:36:33.570
Gina Hansen: You start to focus on more of the the beauty and the gratitude in your health and your surroundings and the peace and even if you are lonely it’s just like.

00:36:34.260 –> 00:36:46.200
Gina Hansen: But I have all of this, but so so so you kind of wait you’re kind of get outweighed, in my opinion that’s what happened with me, you know so.

00:36:46.650 –> 00:36:47.670
Gina Hansen: When it’s running right yeah.

00:36:47.940 –> 00:36:53.430
Jason Mefford: yeah well and as you’re sitting there talking about and I thought you know, in some ways How ironic right you live in Hawaii.

00:36:54.330 –> 00:37:16.740
Jason Mefford: One of the most beautiful places in the whole world right, I mean people just love to go there for vacation but how much of the time, are we effectively living in a beautiful environment, but we don’t take the time to enjoy it or realize what we actually have.

00:37:17.190 –> 00:37:28.530
Jason Mefford: Right right is you know, this could be whether you’re living in Cleveland Cleveland or Hawaii or California right or any anywhere else in the world.

00:37:31.980 –> 00:37:38.280
Jason Mefford: That we’re already surrounded by environments that can be beautiful if we’re looking for it right.

00:37:38.310 –> 00:37:48.630
Jason Mefford: hey so it sounds like that’s a little bit of what you what you did or part of this transition was actually seeing and enjoying the beauty that was around you as well.

00:37:48.660 –> 00:37:57.990
Gina Hansen: Yes, and I started hiking every week, you know just being outdoors one of the things I learned is have you heard of forest bathing.

00:37:58.710 –> 00:38:00.120
Gina Hansen: No oh.

00:38:01.200 –> 00:38:02.700
Jason Mefford: Tell me tell me, you tell know.

00:38:04.200 –> 00:38:05.730
Gina Hansen: it’s a Japanese healing.

00:38:07.200 –> 00:38:13.380
Gina Hansen: I don’t it’s not really a modality it’s just a practice of spending time in nature and.

00:38:14.580 –> 00:38:25.710
Gina Hansen: starting to ground, you know and the trees, especially pine trees are super healing in this in this space, so what I would do is.

00:38:26.130 –> 00:38:40.950
Gina Hansen: go and sit go to my friend’s house and sit, she would drop me off at the top of a mountain where she had these this pine forests, and I would just sit there and I would Journal and i’ll just be by myself and it was so nice.

00:38:42.390 –> 00:38:47.970
Gina Hansen: yeah so that’s one of the things I did, and I just started to connect with nature more and.

00:38:49.140 –> 00:38:50.250
Gina Hansen: have more gratitude.

00:38:51.660 –> 00:38:53.400
Gina Hansen: And and slowly.

00:38:54.420 –> 00:38:55.830
Gina Hansen: I forgot that.

00:38:56.970 –> 00:39:03.270
Gina Hansen: I was all by myself, because I had beauty all around me so yeah.

00:39:04.680 –> 00:39:08.640
Jason Mefford: Well that’s where you know there’s all those sayings like stop and smell the roses.

00:39:08.850 –> 00:39:09.750
Jason Mefford: Right.

00:39:09.930 –> 00:39:11.130
Gina Hansen: right but it’s like.

00:39:11.490 –> 00:39:12.270
Jason Mefford: But we don’t.

00:39:12.660 –> 00:39:12.870
Gina Hansen: So.

00:39:12.900 –> 00:39:21.780
Jason Mefford: Much of the time because we get so busy I mean even you know the what you’ve been able to do right as you’ve changed your life.

00:39:22.410 –> 00:39:38.700
Jason Mefford: And and have gotten more in touch with nature and and seeing the beauty around you aren’t those things that we can also do, even if we still have a regular job, and if you know we’re in a relationship with somebody else or those things we can also do.

00:39:39.000 –> 00:39:40.530
Gina Hansen: Right mm hmm.

00:39:41.610 –> 00:39:42.180
Gina Hansen: Totally.

00:39:44.130 –> 00:39:48.090
Jason Mefford: yeah cuz I heard you I heard you mentioned the morning ritual right, which is where.

00:39:48.870 –> 00:39:59.760
Jason Mefford: You know, again if you’re a morning person that’s probably going to be a morning ritual, but if your night person, maybe it’s night night ritual right, but you know i’m guessing then that you probably take some time every day.

00:40:00.930 –> 00:40:04.500
Jason Mefford: To do things that bring you this peaceful bliss.

00:40:06.510 –> 00:40:10.530
Jason Mefford: As well right that’s that’s kind of what what are you talking about a little bit there.

00:40:11.010 –> 00:40:20.640
Gina Hansen: Oh definitely one of the things we did, while we were in Mexico, as we watched the heel you know he he killed the documentary and one of the.

00:40:21.210 –> 00:40:27.900
Gina Hansen: Men in the documentary he had the doctor said he was going to he wasn’t going to survive because a Japanese man.

00:40:28.560 –> 00:40:41.520
Gina Hansen: And he had gone through everything, and so what he discovered in the morning he would you know in Japan there’s not a lot of nature, you have to look for nature, because there’s a lot of buildings and things.

00:40:41.910 –> 00:40:51.420
Gina Hansen: And so, he is building was across from the park and some trees and in the morning he would listen to the birds and stuff and and he started to develop.

00:40:53.160 –> 00:41:01.740
Gina Hansen: Sound and so sound frequency he started to do like a little mantra chance, or something was just a sound it wasn’t words or anything but.

00:41:02.160 –> 00:41:16.050
Gina Hansen: He started to develop this practice and he healed himself through this and I believe it’s connecting to nature love and gratitude and this energy of this frequency of the sound that he was making in his throat.

00:41:16.560 –> 00:41:31.020
Gina Hansen: He actually healed himself so um you know there’s so many I totally believe and through this evidence, you know in this documentary and other things that we have the innate ability to heal ourselves.

00:41:31.620 –> 00:41:45.450
Gina Hansen: And, whether it be sound therapy energy healing prayer the power of prayer and having a bunch of people come around you and pray over you so powerful amazing.

00:41:47.400 –> 00:42:00.450
Jason Mefford: yeah now, we do have the power to heal right and a lot of times it’s it’s just up to us to actually do some of the things that whatever it is that happens to resonate with individuals is going to be different.

00:42:00.720 –> 00:42:08.610
Jason Mefford: Right yeah I mean for you going into the pine forest and journaling That was a good thing right now, for me, I like that too.

00:42:08.880 –> 00:42:09.420
Jason Mefford: yeah right.

00:42:10.320 –> 00:42:15.930
Jason Mefford: Like being in the forest as well right, but for other people that might be, you know sitting at the beach.

00:42:16.110 –> 00:42:35.670
Jason Mefford: May it might be painting a picture, or you know coloring in a coloring book, it might be literally smelling the roses or doing gardening or right there’s so many different things that we can all do, and if you just spend a few minutes a day.

00:42:35.700 –> 00:42:40.380
Gina Hansen: Oh, my God laughing laughing is the best medicine and.

00:42:41.010 –> 00:42:42.060
Jason Mefford: Are we allowed to laugh.

00:42:43.830 –> 00:42:47.850
Gina Hansen: You know what gets me right now is watching animals.

00:42:48.180 –> 00:42:52.380
Gina Hansen: Like so many people are sharing videos of animals doing crazy things.

00:42:52.770 –> 00:42:58.170
Gina Hansen: And that brings me so much enjoy and I love just laughing at these animals.

00:42:59.070 –> 00:43:04.470
Jason Mefford: Well that’s that’s another one of those things again, I mean like like you share the story of the man, you know, doing the sound.

00:43:04.950 –> 00:43:08.970
Jason Mefford: there’s several stories that i’ve read about people just laughing.

00:43:09.240 –> 00:43:10.260
Jason Mefford: their way to.

00:43:11.130 –> 00:43:12.030
Jason Mefford: being better.

00:43:12.060 –> 00:43:15.120
Jason Mefford: Right one day I just watched three stooges videos all the time.

00:43:16.500 –> 00:43:16.740
Jason Mefford: You know.

00:43:18.180 –> 00:43:24.120
Jason Mefford: And was just laughing laughing and laughing and laughing and ended up you know physically healing but I.

00:43:24.120 –> 00:43:32.100
Jason Mefford: think you know back to your point, just like you know we’re told to prepare financially for retirement.

00:43:32.400 –> 00:43:32.880
Gina Hansen: mm hmm.

00:43:33.030 –> 00:43:37.050
Jason Mefford: we’re not usually told to prepare emotionally for life.

00:43:37.410 –> 00:43:37.710
Gina Hansen: yeah.

00:43:37.740 –> 00:43:40.380
Jason Mefford: In general, let alone retirement.

00:43:40.830 –> 00:43:41.280
Gina Hansen: Right.

00:43:42.060 –> 00:43:52.560
Jason Mefford: And so we spend all this time on the finances or some of these other things, but some of these little things that we can do each day actually help us from an emotional.

00:43:53.940 –> 00:43:56.160
Jason Mefford: perspective to be able to prepare ourselves.

00:43:56.940 –> 00:43:57.360

00:43:59.250 –> 00:44:07.320
Gina Hansen: And instead of just preparing ourselves, maybe just connecting and enjoying our lives.

00:44:07.830 –> 00:44:25.860
Gina Hansen: As we go instead of thinking in the future in 10 years i’m going to retire, and then I will live right, I mean most people say i’m not going to when I when I retire i’m going to travel or i’m going to do this, but I think, for I think what I learned in my lessons is live every day.

00:44:26.940 –> 00:44:28.530
Gina Hansen: yeah yeah.

00:44:29.580 –> 00:44:32.400
Jason Mefford: that’s live every day.

00:44:33.000 –> 00:44:35.430
Jason Mefford: And I think that’s that really is a.

00:44:36.600 –> 00:44:40.710
Jason Mefford: Because, as you said that it reminded me of my mother passed away, many years ago.

00:44:41.160 –> 00:44:47.190
Jason Mefford: And it was the same thing right, where she worked hard her whole life she always dreamed of traveling.

00:44:49.320 –> 00:44:57.150
Jason Mefford: You know one reasons why I love to travel, because of her love of travel, but you know she was going to travel, when she retired.

00:44:58.440 –> 00:45:18.750
Jason Mefford: And then she retired got cancer five years struggle with cancer gone right so at that point it’s like we we shouldn’t wait until the end of our life to live or to do some of these things that we want to do, because we never know how much time we’re actually going to have.

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Jason Mefford: Right exactly so you know there’s there’s nothing like having having about with cancer.

00:45:26.910 –> 00:45:31.980
Jason Mefford: or going through some of these other experiences that you went through in that very short period of time.

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Jason Mefford: To kind of wake us up and realize that and we just need to live life and have fun right, which I think again, is one of the reasons why your energy is such that you’re always laughing you’re always smiling you’re always right, because you understand and realize how precious life is.

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Jason Mefford: enter doing those things so you’re living your life every day.

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Gina Hansen: yeah for sure.

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Jason Mefford: Alright looks like.

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Jason Mefford: To start living my life better to.

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Jason Mefford: Well, I guess, any any you know parting parting additional things that maybe we didn’t we didn’t talk about I mean this is one of those episodes where there’s a lot of little things.

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Jason Mefford: That are woven throughout this for people to be able to get a lot of benefit from it, but any anything else you’d like to make sure, and leave with people before we get on with the rest of our day.

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Gina Hansen: yeah I just.

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Gina Hansen: would love to leave an empowering message that.

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Gina Hansen: To trust yourself and your intuition and not rely on what the Western medical doctors tell you only only that because there’s so much more that you can do for your health so much more.

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Jason Mefford: together as well and gina too, because I know you know you’ve you’ve done this you’ve lived through it as well, I mean if.

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Jason Mefford: If people have been listening they’re like I want to get to know that gina better How can people actually reach out or find you or, you know as well if they want to connect with you ask questions or whatever how’s how’s the best place for people to find you.

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Gina Hansen: Oh i’ll leave some links for you to put in your show notes.

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Gina Hansen: So, but i’m on Facebook gina hanson 808 I believe gina Hansen 808 and then i’m on instagram emotion code dot energy healing.

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Jason Mefford: And we’ll make sure, and put those those links in the show notes as well, so.

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Jason Mefford: Thank you, my friend.

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Gina Hansen: And you.

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Jason Mefford: it’s always nice like I said I always I always feel better when I talk to you I don’t care what it is you don’t even have to say anything you just have to smile, and I feel.

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Gina Hansen: Well, this is a pleasure, thank you for inviting me.

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Jason Mefford: you’re welcome and like I said I mean what you said today is going to help a lot of people, which is really the important thing right so.

00:48:00.870 –> 00:48:14.040
Jason Mefford: You know we all go through this we can all find the beauty all around us, we can all live every day, and the more that we actually live each day the happier we’re going to be.

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Gina Hansen: I think right yeah exactly.

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Jason Mefford: All right, well, thank you, my friend and.

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Jason Mefford: we’ll we’ll see you around.

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Gina Hansen: Okay, thanks everybody.

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