If you are like most people listening to the #fireandearthpodcast you would like to manifest some amazing things. Just closing your eyes and dreaming about a Ferrari, won’t make one appear. The law of attraction requires that you also practice the law of action.

In this episode we discuss how to use a 21 days of abundance approach and what it takes to manifest the things you want in your life.

Listen in at: http://www.jasonmefford.com/fireandearthpodcast/ or http://fireandearthpodcast.com/

The Fire and Earth Podcast gives you practical advice and keys to unlocking your potential in life and business, hosted by Dr. Kathy Gruver and Jason Mefford. Real, raw and unscripted.

#abundance #lawofattraction #manifestation

Transcript

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Jason Mefford: Welcome to another episode of the fire and earth podcast, I’m your co host Jason Medford

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Kathy Gruver: And I’m Kathy Grover, and we are excited to be back with you and today we’re gonna be talking about

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Kathy Gruver: Abundance.

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Jason Mefford: Was like, are you gonna make up a new word like that’s manifesting and abundance together like man abundance

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Jason Mefford: Abundance.

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Kathy Gruver: You know, I was single for a while and I was

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Jason Mefford: You were looking for a man abundance

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Kathy Gruver: Hey, we should start again.

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Jason Mefford: You want to start again. I thought it was real run unscripted

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Kathy Gruver: Okay. Hey. Hey. Welcome back, we’re

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Kathy Gruver: Abundance abundance funds or dancing. We’re talking about bringing things to us and it’s sort of fun. The reason we decided to do this episode is I’m in the middle of a 21 day abundance

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Kathy Gruver: Manifestation meditation jury sort of thing. So I’ve been keeping my little notebook of stuff.

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Kathy Gruver: And there’s some really amazing exercises in there. But even if you’re not doing the 21 days of abundance. I really recommend on these exercises. They’re kind of cool. So that’s what we talked about today. Yeah.

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Jason Mefford: Because we know that a lot of people. I mean, we’re both trying to manifest certain things have an abundant lifestyle and assuming most of you are trying to do that as well.

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Jason Mefford: And I know it’s it’s not as simple as some people try to make it seem right. I mean, there’s videos and other stuff out there and they’re like,

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Jason Mefford: You know, all you have to do is close your eyes and think, and all of a sudden the Ferrari shows up. Hey folks, that ain’t that easy. It was, I wouldn’t focus on a Ferrari right now.

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Jason Mefford: You’re falling asleep right

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Kathy Gruver: So one night.

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Jason Mefford: It’s it’s it’s

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Jason Mefford: It’s not as easy as that. Because you have to actually do some work as well. Right. Because when you think about like the laws.

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Jason Mefford: You know a lot of people talk about the law of attraction, but they don’t ever talk about the law of action which is you actually got to get your butt up

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Jason Mefford: And do some work as well. And so some of the stuff that we’re talking about is some of that action that you can take to be able to help you in this and it does, it does sometimes take some time.

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Jason Mefford: Because it’s based on the universe’s timeline, not ours. And so a lot of people that are trying to manifest or have abundance in their life probably give up too soon.

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Jason Mefford: angry because they, you know, and then they say, oh, well, it doesn’t work. And it’s like, you have to give this some time and you have to get in alignment.

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Jason Mefford: And until you do that, you know, the floodgates aren’t going to open so so yeah maybe share, share some of the things that you’re going through in this 21 day challenge, because I think they’re good. They’re good exercises or practices for us to kind of get into to be able to help us out.

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Kathy Gruver: Yeah, you know, one of the things that has us do so every day. There’s an affirmation every day. There’s like a written journaling exercise to do

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Kathy Gruver: And then every day, there is a video. It’s actually Deepak Chopra’s 21 day abundance. So it’s a video of just silent meditation, but it also includes a Sanskrit mantra. So some of the affirmations because I’ve been putting them on post. It’s on my desk and I’m just pulling one over the

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Kathy Gruver: First one was today I behold all the abundance that surrounds me

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Jason Mefford: Hmm.

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Kathy Gruver: And then the next day was I create my personal abundance for an in from an infinite source.

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Kathy Gruver: Today I focus on what I want to attract into my life today I embrace my potential to be do and have whatever I can dream.

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Kathy Gruver: Mm hmm. And

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Jason Mefford: There’s be doing have again right that we’ve

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Jason Mefford: Talked about

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Kathy Gruver: Before too.

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Kathy Gruver: Absolutely. So what I really appreciate about those is their, you know,

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Kathy Gruver: Their direct their short I write them in my little notebook. I also put them on my desk so that even if I’m not looking at them and thinking consciously about them.

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Kathy Gruver: Those things that are in our environment are still sinking in. And they’re still making a change with us.

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Kathy Gruver: And I really like the one. It’s like I have the potential to be doing have whatever I can dream, whatever we can think of whatever we can conjure in our brains.

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Kathy Gruver: We can manifest into our lives. Now, I know not everyone believes that it’s the sort of bumper sticker wisdom.

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Kathy Gruver: airy fairy sort of thing. But you know what, there’s no side effects and it’s free and you don’t need a prescription and at the very least doing affirmations, like the shifts your perspective blocks out that negative stuff decreases stress. So you’re going to be more apt to

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Kathy Gruver: Be in a place to accept these things when they come, or to find them when they show up and i think that’s that’s half the battle.

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Jason Mefford: Well, so you shared kind of what some of these affirmations actually are. So in the in the 21 day program you’re going through. I know you mentioned you have a journal and some other stuff too. So

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Jason Mefford: How, how are you, incorporating these affirmations. Is this something that you’re journaling on to is journaling different. Are you saying them out loud. Are you thinking of them during the meditation, how, how is that part kind of getting incorporated them.

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Kathy Gruver: Yeah, so I repeat them a couple of times.

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Kathy Gruver: I write them down on the post it on my desk. I write them for that day in my little notebook and it’s so funny because I have, you know, I go to so many conferences and I have a stack of

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Kathy Gruver: Post it Notes. A stack of list pieces of paper, a stack of little notebooks. People have given me is that you all this crap and I haven’t grabbed this one. And it’s from sempra energy. I’m not even sure where this came from. But it says hashtag be that girl.

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Jason Mefford: Oh, interesting.

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Kathy Gruver: And I’m like, that’s so perfect and then on a pen I wrote on a 21 day abundance, with a little symbol and

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Kathy Gruver: It’s a great little notebook and I just have so many of these. So yeah, I’ve been writing the affirmation down there before I do the written exercise.

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Kathy Gruver: And then during the meditation we repeat the mantra, a couple of times before we go into silence or the affirmation. Before we go into silence, and then we have a Sanskrit mantra that we’re repeating also a lot of stuff going on there. It’s actually a very

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Kathy Gruver: Complete so far 21 day thing because you’re getting all this different stuff. It’s not just writing. It’s not just during the Montrose on just doing the affirmation. It’s not just doing an exercise. It’s all of these things.

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Kathy Gruver: Kind of hand it from all sides and the to go back to you said about the timing and having to do the work. It’s like, you can’t just pull up the recipe for bread and go, I have bread.

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Jason Mefford: But you have to, you have to do it. You have to go the store and buy flour and sugar and yeast and whatever else it takes to make the bread.

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Kathy Gruver: Baking soda.

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Kathy Gruver: And then you can’t just have all the ingredients and go. I got them.

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Kathy Gruver: You have to actually mix them in the right combination. And then you have to cook it, and then you have to wait and then you have to heat up the oven.

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Kathy Gruver: Not in that order. And, you know, so it’s like it is not just this immediate thing, like you were saying. And just like we don’t snap our fingers and have bread.

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Kathy Gruver: It’s a process to get there. I think we’re more patient with our recipes than we are, for food than we are with the recipe for our lives.

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Kathy Gruver: And we never know when the universe has an oven preheated for us. We just have to wait until light goes on and then we know we’re ready. Then we put it in.

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Jason Mefford: Well, and I and I like the program that you’re talking about. Because like you said, it does, it hits on several different things, right, and we’ve talked a little bit about multi sensory learning and some things like that, you know, as far as

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Jason Mefford: The more of your senses that you can activate while you’re learning while you’re doing things

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Jason Mefford: Literally, literally, folks, the more places it gets programmed in your subconscious brain. So first off, you’re already ahead by that by programming at different places. So it’s more likely to come up or come back to you.

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Jason Mefford: Because you’re recording it more places and you’re actually doing some of these things, right. So,

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Jason Mefford: The affirmations saying them out loud, you’re saying it, but you’re also hearing it. When you do that, you’re probably reading it. So you’re seeing it at the same time. So you just activated.

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Jason Mefford: You know, several different of your senses. At that point, because actually, as you’re speaking you hear the you feel the vibrations

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Jason Mefford: In your body as well. So, you know, you’re getting several of these things going as you’re writing again you know it’s it’s a kinesthetic movement.

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Jason Mefford: But you’re seeing it as well you know and and hearing, hearing the mantras and saying it. It’s like it is. It’s kind of a complete package where you’re putting a lot of these things together.

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Jason Mefford: Which is great because not everything. Not everything works the best for everybody, but if you do something like this is activating several different things, you’re much more likely to actually have it hit something that actually does work for you.

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Kathy Gruver: Absolutely, absolutely. And before I the written exercises to a really cool before I get to that, I want to say something that two things that you just came up for me as you were saying that we talked about Mr. In Modo.

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Jason Mefford: Is it the water crystals. Right.

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Kathy Gruver: Yeah. So for those of you who don’t know what that is. He wrote a book called The hidden messages in water and his belief was that water and water crystals were affected by positive or negative energy. MUSIC. WORDS.

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Kathy Gruver: And so he would tape or say affirmations to water.

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Kathy Gruver: And then he would freeze that water and see what the crystals look like and the crystals that were from the positive messages were gorgeous and symmetrical and really beautiful.

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Kathy Gruver: And the ones to the negative messages like I hate you. I will kill you. Adolf Hitler, you know, all that stuff. The crystals look telomeres blobs now.

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Kathy Gruver: People in the science world said that’s not a reproducible study. So that’s BS. Whatever you think, but if we truly are 80% water.

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Kathy Gruver: You know, Howard, how are those words, those messages affecting us. The other thing I was going to say was our brains move towards that which we know

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Kathy Gruver: Our brain deems things that are known safer than most things that are unknown, even if they’re bad

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Kathy Gruver: So this is why so many people stay in negative relationships or abusive relationships are horrible job because your brains, like, well, at least I know what this is.

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Kathy Gruver: Stepping out of that into an unknown is scarier. So if you start to know that abundance is part of your life if you start to know these things are flowing to you.

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Kathy Gruver: That you’re getting these things if you make that as a known then you’re going to move towards that you’re going to make different decisions towards having those things that you’re thinking about

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Kathy Gruver: So that’s what really excites me about this program and any abundance thing or any affirmations and that kind of stuff. We’re moving towards those things are positive. Yeah.

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Jason Mefford: Well in for him for some of the people, again, you know, that have tried some of these things, but it’s been hard.

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Jason Mefford: And they haven’t really gotten where they want again what Cathy just said, remember we we tend to focus on, or what those things that are safe. So if, if these feelings of lack have been keeping your consciousness safe, quote unquote, then it’s going to want to default back to that.

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Jason Mefford: Right. And so this gets back

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Jason Mefford: Into some of the ego states. So we’ve talked about before, right, because you’re conscious ego state is saying, Whoa, no, this is a little different. This is something that I’m not used to change is scary. I might not be safe.

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Jason Mefford: And and when that kind of monkey brain chatter shows up, then you know it’s it’s harder to do that. And that’s why some of this repetition and the other stuff is so important, too.

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Jason Mefford: Because like you said it’s it’s moving us a little bit closer to where we want to be. Now, you know, you take two or three steps forward, you might take a step back.

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Jason Mefford: But if you focus on. No, I just took a step back, then you start going back into all those negative belief patterns that you had before, instead of

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Jason Mefford: Hey, I’m still two steps ahead right we should be focusing more on and that’s why a lot of these programs and other stuff. Talk about, you know, the gratitude.

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Jason Mefford: And and and feeling well, what was it, what was that one affirmation about I’m going to see the abundant things in my life. How was that worded

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Kathy Gruver: Today I behold all the abundance that surrounds me

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Jason Mefford: Okay, so see that that affirmation is actually helping you right to see what already you have in your life where that abundance already is. It’s another thing that should, there’s your cognitive bias.

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Jason Mefford: That shows up kind of psychologically as well, right, because if you’re programming, your brain to look for abundance. What are you going to find

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Jason Mefford: You’re going to find the abundance right and so

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Kathy Gruver: pennies on the street. I mean, this is, to me it’s a reminder that the universe is abundant and there’s gifts everywhere.

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Jason Mefford: Yep, so that’s that’s a great one. Again, to try to

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Jason Mefford: You know show how that affirmation is trying to reprogram your brain to look for abundance, the more we’re looking for it and that we’re grateful that it’s in our life the more we’re going to be looking for it.

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Jason Mefford: The more we’re going to see it. And then that starts to become that pattern of reinforcement and it ends up retraining our brain to where now we see the positive things instead of the negative

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Jason Mefford: But it but it takes some time. You know, if you’ve spent 40 years of her life being scared.

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Jason Mefford: And and and worried and anxious, it’s going to take some time, you know, if it takes a few months, you know, just be grateful for that. That you’re slowly making these changes that that you can reprogramming whether it’s taking a 40 maybe 50 years

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Jason Mefford: To program to begin with. That’s, that’s still a pretty good way

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Kathy Gruver: Well, it’s like, weight loss, people are so pissed doesn’t happen faster. It’s like you didn’t wake up 30

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Kathy Gruver: lot quicker than a went on, like, what do you think that works.

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Kathy Gruver: Right. So the first day exercise which was really exciting was to write down 50 people 50

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Kathy Gruver: Well, who have influenced your life and been a positive influence and have somehow gotten you to where you are today. And my first thought was good God at 50 people. That’s ridiculous.

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Kathy Gruver: And so I sat down at the trapeze read because I happen to be there that day and I started writing and next thing you know I had 105

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Jason Mefford: There you go.

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Kathy Gruver: And then as the day war on like as the next day came, I started thinking more and more people. And what was really what they wanted you to do with this was

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Kathy Gruver: Not just write names, but like think about what that person meant to you. Think about how they affected you give the honor them in some way and it didn’t even have to be people. You knew I mean like I wrote Katharine Hepburn

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Kathy Gruver: Wonder Woman

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Kathy Gruver: You know, it’s like Hillary Clinton hate lunar you know all these people who I certainly don’t know but influenced my life john Ritter Carol Burnett Tim Conway all the humor kind of

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Jason Mefford: Oh yeah I

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Kathy Gruver: Love that. But it’s like I grew up watching that kind of stuff. And that influenced a lot of my life not dimension MOM, DAD. GRANDMA, you know, because then I started because I’m such a logical

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Kathy Gruver: Structured person. I’m like, Okay, what kind of went through family members and then I got stuck for a second. And I went, Well, I have three neighbors growing up.

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Kathy Gruver: That really influenced me. Oh, and I have my teachers. Oh, and then there was that kid in school. And then, you know, it just grew and grew and grew and Blossom, Blossom, Blossom until I suddenly had

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Kathy Gruver: This giant list of people. And it was so much fun to do. And it was very also very moving because I was thinking, but most not most, a lot of these people aren’t with us anymore.

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Kathy Gruver: So I got to honor those people that I knew were an influence on me but aren’t around. So it’s like, no, it’s kind of nice to

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Kathy Gruver: So it was very tearful joyfully tearful exercise, but it was to come up with 50 people who have positive influence on your life. It was it was a fun exercise. It was

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Kathy Gruver: I went into it, thinking oh my god is impossible. And suddenly I had this list. So I recommend doing that. It was a really great week have in mind your cell phone the influence that others have had and how support and and surrounded by love your hmm

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Jason Mefford: Well, and it’s, it’s, um, you know, I’ve heard of some of these exercises like that where it’s 50 or 100 you know that you have to write down. And again, it’s like when people do this, it’s like okay, maybe the first 10 or 20

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Jason Mefford: Things whatever you’re writing are pretty easy. And then people kind of hit this wall, you know, and then, you know, like you said, you started thinking, well now hold it. I had some neighbors. Right. And then it starts kind of going and going and going from there.

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Jason Mefford: And and that’s just a beautiful exercise again because, as we’re trying to focus on those good things right what you

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Jason Mefford: For for most of us, as an example right there. There’s good things. There’s bad things that happened to us throughout our lives and it can be a big T trauma can be a little T trauma. Right. Most of the time, you know, I bet if you

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Jason Mefford: You know a lot of people when they get frustrated or they worry or they have some of these things that come up for them.

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Jason Mefford: It’s maybe in I’m just throwing numbers out there because, you know, hey, we’re just talking right but but maybe there’s, you know, Ben 10 people in your life.

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Jason Mefford: That really did some things that were pretty crappy. You know that scarred you in some way and it’s really easy for us to focus on those people in the negative feelings towards them.

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Jason Mefford: But if you if you stop them and do an exercise like you just did with these 50 people you realize that there’s way more people that have had a positive influence on your life than negative

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Jason Mefford: And if we can hold more space and be more in in that area than more abundance has to come to us again right i mean another another thing that a lot of people do. There’s, there’s a whole list of

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Jason Mefford: Different emotions that we can feel from, like, you know, and they’ve even kind of like hooked people up to to machines to try to figure out

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Jason Mefford: And even feeling board is better than feeling shame. So if you’re feeling shame you know again try to do something to move your energy level up that scale, it’s going to help you get closer to where you’re at, because if you’re sitting down there wallowing in shame.

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Jason Mefford: It’s not, it’s not a good place to be. And if you’re in that feeling so much of the time, of course, you’re not going to see the abundance show up worse because you’re worried about all this other stuff. Yeah.

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Kathy Gruver: So we’re going to see, we’re going to attract what we’re looking for. Oh, and hey, by the way, your name is on my list.

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Jason Mefford: Oh, it is. Oh.

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Jason Mefford: Well, I wasn’t. We wouldn’t keep be doing this after for over a year. Right.

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Kathy Gruver: You made it before john Ritter. So, I mean, I was good.

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Jason Mefford: Oh, wow. That is because Ritter’s amazing to Conway to her.

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Kathy Gruver: One of the things, the second day, and this one kind of threw me was, write down all of your debts school loan mortgage, car payment any loans that are outstanding and then write down every monthly expense, write it all out so that you know

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Kathy Gruver: Write out what abundance means to you.

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Kathy Gruver: And then she wanted us to get creative. I didn’t get overly creative, but one of us to draw

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Kathy Gruver: Any version of currency money stocks, whatever is just sort of make it a fun thing draw enough money and currency and abundance to pay for all those things you had written the day before.

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Kathy Gruver: Oh, interesting. I’m the worst artist ever so this is

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Kathy Gruver: This is me.

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Jason Mefford: Well, so here’s, here’s a funny thing we haven’t done will have to be you may see this again in the future. What’s on your desk.

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Jason Mefford: One of the things that I have on my desk is a stack of hundreds, you know, $10,000 sitting right here. Now, of course, it’s play money.

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Jason Mefford: But it’s again it’s a visual representation of that money. And again, that’s, that’s an interesting exercise for you to actually go through and to realize that you know there’s enough money out there to take care of all your debts.

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Kathy Gruver: Yes, well, and the other one that I really liked it. This was the last one we had done world I’m only have two day five on this or five or six

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Kathy Gruver: Well, the average was from this moment forward, I invite unlimited abundance into my life and the exercise for the day was to write down people in your life.

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Kathy Gruver: Could be people from that initial list who exhibit and live a life of abundance

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Kathy Gruver: Doesn’t have to be wealth, but who have a life of abundance. And so all of these names just came to me, have you even from when I was a kid, we had really dear friends of the family. Don and BB who

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Kathy Gruver: And he didn’t make it on my list. He was a huge influence to me. So he made on that list, but on the list of people who who are an example of abundance. You didn’t make a list so abundance isn’t always about financial wealth, your funding wealthy people who are living in LAC

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Jason Mefford: And that’s, that’s a part of this whole thing too. So again, though, you know, those of you that are are frustrated. It’s like, damn it. Where’s the money, why hasn’t shown up yet.

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Jason Mefford: Abundance is much more than just money and so try to think about some of these other things and get yourself in alignment than the money is going to show up. Yeah.

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Kathy Gruver: That’s abundance. I’m surrounded by people who were positive influence on my life. That’s not money that’s abundance. That’s people who are around me a support systems. I would love to do an episode on mental bank which

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Kathy Gruver: I’m I love, love, love mental bank I that’s one of the things that I believe got me to the level of success. I have, I kind of fell off doing it. And now I’m doing the 21 day program. I don’t want to do too much at once.

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Kathy Gruver: But as soon as I’m done with this. I’m going to bring it back. I’m gonna teach my boyfriend, how to do it. And it’s such a great system for abundance and attracting those things you want your life. So yeah, we’re excited to do a show on that.

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Jason Mefford: Be a future episode.

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Jason Mefford: No, I mean, I think, I think, you know, again, we kind of walked through the program you’re going through right now.

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Jason Mefford: It’s, it’s okay. I have an abundance of time. Everything is going to get done. And so if my body feels like I need to take a nap for an hour.

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Jason Mefford: You know when you’re doing stuff so doing some of these exercises like writing down the list, you know, some people are going to be like, well, that’s not really work well. It is work, folks.

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Jason Mefford: And and actually doing some of that work is way harder than some of the other work that we do. But when you do that and you get that alignment and the things start falling into place. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah.

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Kathy Gruver: We have to give ourselves time we have to give ourselves space, we have to give ourselves the positive attitude that I think so often we we lose. We get well don’t run we get beaten down which I totally understand I all been there.

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Jason Mefford: Well, and we

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Jason Mefford: Excuse me, we still have to do the work. Right. If I hadn’t done the work of putting the course together of marketing it of having it out there. So, somebody could find it. Nobody’s going to find it. When I’m taking a nap right so you still have to do the work.

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Kathy Gruver: Yeah, go out to the work, don’t just buy the recipe and wonder where the brand is

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Jason Mefford: You got to actually put it, put it in the mixer and mix it up. Oh.

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Kathy Gruver: Yeah. All right, everybody, this is great. Go out be abundant shoot for those things that you want, right, your affirmations are doing exercises the 21 day abundance program that I’m doing is out there online.

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Kathy Gruver: I got through a friend or a whole group of us doing it, but it’s an amazing thing 21 days to build a new habit. You know, so I’m Kathy gruver I can be reached at Kathy rude calm.

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Jason Mefford: And I’m Jason method I can be reached at Jason method calm and we’ll catch you on a future episode of the fire and earth podcast. So, yeah, yeah.

We are all living in a new normal now with many of us at home as we shelter in place through the current pandemic. We thought it would be fun to do an episode in our bathrobes and talk about how we can look for, and take advantage of opportunities we all now have as we go through our current circumstances.

If you are feeling anxiety, you can talk it out and write it out, a couple of tips we provide in this #fireandearthpodcast episode.

Listen in at: http://www.jasonmefford.com/fireandearthpodcast/ or http://fireandearthpodcast.com/

The Fire and Earth Podcast gives you practical advice and keys to unlocking your potential in life and business, hosted by Dr. Kathy Gruver and Jason Mefford. Real, raw and unscripted.

#anxiety #opportunity

Transcript

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kathygruver: Hey everybody, welcome to another episode of the fire and earth podcast, I’m your co host Kathy Gruber.

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Jason Mefford: And I’m Jason Medford, and today we thought we’d do something a little different, since I know many of you are locked away in your home, kind of in this isolation quarantine period.

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Jason Mefford: Where we’re going to show up in our pajamas. But we decided we better use bathrobes because I know actually I don’t wear pajamas. So

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Jason Mefford: We’re in our bathrobes today coming to you.

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Jason Mefford: You know, to try to talk about

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Jason Mefford: You because we’re living in a new normal. Now right and and because of that a lot of you have an opportunity now to make some changes in your life.

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Jason Mefford: You know, Kathy. I’m sure you’ve probably felt like me right where it’s like, at times, you know, you’re like, Hey, I want to change my life I want to do something different. I want to create new habits.

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Jason Mefford: Now is the perfect time to do it because all of your old habits in normals have changed, right. So it’s an easier time for us now to actually

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Jason Mefford: change some of those habits and take advantage of this time to either develop new habits learn new things. Do whatever that you want to try to do and change during this time.

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kathygruver: Yeah, absolutely. I’m going to be slightly contrary though.

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Jason Mefford: Oh,

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kathygruver: I know if

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kathygruver: You may. So here are some of the challenges with that though this is a perfect opportunity to change things to work on personal development to write that book to do all these things. But here’s the two barriers that I’m saying one is it’s so easy to not do jack shit.

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Jason Mefford: It’s very easy to just pull the covers up and want to stay in bed right

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kathygruver: It’s easier to just, you know, play video games all day and watch Netflix and play with a cat and sit in the garden, kind of just zone out, which is great. A little bit. We’ve talked about decent trading as much as we need to do that. And the other thing is I’m seeing so much fear and

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kathygruver: I’ll use the word depression, not a clinical depression, but I’m seeing so many people who are fearful of this right now. Is there sort of frozen in that so

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kathygruver: Yes, this is an amazing time to get stuff done. And I see all these barriers to that. And so that’s kind of what we’re going to talk about this morning.

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Jason Mefford: Yeah, some different ways that you can kind of get past that fear because you know when you when you think about if you’ve ever seen like the the emotional spiral the upward spiral the downward spiral.

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Jason Mefford: At the very bottom of the downward spiral is fear and depression. And so, you know, again, if, if you’re still kind of stuck or feeling in that area. Right. You need to start being able to move yourself up out of that emotion and there’s some different ways you can do it right.

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Jason Mefford: So let’s go through, like I said, Let me. Let’s talk about that a little bit to begin with. And, you know, I’m sure. For the next few episodes, we’re going to be talking about some of this stuff too, because we want to give you tools.

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Jason Mefford: To help you, you know, take advantage of this opportunity. And when we come out of this that you’re a lot further ahead than the people who are just pulling the covers up over their head and not wanting to get out of bed. Yeah, absolutely.

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kathygruver: I think the other thing, too, was we were kind of touch on is talking about routines and sticking to those routines and so many of us, you know, I’m used to getting up doing my certain things.

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kathygruver: Getting to my office by 10 seeing clients all day, squeezing stuff in between clients. Well, now I have no reason to rush out of the house massage therapist not seeing anybody right now. So it’s important, I think, to keep those habits going to keep those routines to write stuff down

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kathygruver: My boyfriend. I have started actually like writing down what do we need to accomplish today. Let’s keep each other on track with that because it’s easy to not get anything done all day. So I think sticking to that.

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kathygruver: This is business hours just as if you would work from home. Normally, I think we just have to shift that that mindset for a lot of us.

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Jason Mefford: Well, and that is probably, you know, I mean, I’ve worked from home now for over eight years, right. So, I mean, if you’re going to get anything done working from home, you have to treat it.

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Jason Mefford: Just like you would going into an office right so there there has to be some of those routines of things that you do.

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Jason Mefford: Or else, like you said, You’re, you’re sitting around watching Netflix all day and all of a sudden you wake up three weeks later, and it’s like cheese. I haven’t gotten off the couch or my bed right I go from my

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kathygruver: My first tip would be continue to write stuff down we know we’ve covered this, I’m a list maker.

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kathygruver: I love my to do list and you know I have a running list. Now it’s actually in one of those magnet shopping list things that you’d put up on your fridge, a running list of things that I want to accomplish, and it’s more day to day I’m not trying to sit at this point, long term goals.

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kathygruver: Excuse me, I know I want to finish my book, but I’m not the headspace for that yet. So I know it’s there. It’s on my sort of mental to do list.

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kathygruver: So, so sort of all of my realities, you know, there’s no massage right now.

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kathygruver: Most of my hypnosis clients don’t want to come to the office. They don’t do it virtually so like

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kathygruver: The speaking gigs of stopped. So I’m really having to take a look at, you know, what is this new normal. And I find writing stuff down and so helpful because it helps me to organize thoughts. What is important. Going back to what Sarah Caputo talked about many episodes ago

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kathygruver: Having systems in place actually reviewed her handouts. The other day, again, as I was cleaning out my task so much so many of us are. So I think it’s important to to really wants cancer done. What do you want, and then start writing stuff down on that.

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Jason Mefford: Well, and I think that that’s that’s a great tip, you know, writing it down and also talking it out.

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Jason Mefford: Because, you know, again, as we talked about some, some of you may be experiencing some of these barriers, where you’re just kind of stuck in your head right

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Jason Mefford: Right, so again. Yeah, if you’re starting if you’re having some of those feelings talking it out, literally saying it out loud to yourself, whether that’s to another person or to yourself.

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kathygruver: And I think right now having all those feelings is totally normal, not to make those feelings not. I mean, there’s so many unknowns right now.

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kathygruver: And our brain is constantly scanning the environment, looking for things that are wrong, looking for threats, so that it can protect us from those. So with having so much upheaval and so many things going on, we’re all pretty much fight or flight, right now.

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kathygruver: And how can we turn those into something more productive. How can we turn that spiral.

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kathygruver: So if you say, What if everything goes wrong, your brains going to look for all that stuff that’s going wrong.

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kathygruver: Find what you type into that search bar. And if you look for lack and fear and negativity. That’s what you’re going to find. You’re not going to find positivity. That’s about programming yourself. I didn’t want to jump in.

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Jason Mefford: No, because I was gonna say. I mean, we can take, let’s take one of those negative what ifs that I just sat right. What if I get the coronavirus

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kathygruver: And you know, we have all these events and there are just things we decide whether they’re positive or negative. We decide with how we think about them.

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kathygruver: Whether they’re good or bad. I mean, there are just things and there’s, I think I said this parable about the title you have, I use the parable, but the farmer and the horse and the son who breaks his arm.

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Jason Mefford: I just I just reread that this week so so yeah let’s let’s talk about that because that’s a great one. Right.

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kathygruver: The horse throws the sun. The sun falls and breaks his arm. The town gathers around. Oh my god, this is the most horrible thing ever. It was on your one son he broke his arm is so terrible. And the farmer says we’ll see

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kathygruver: The next day, the Army comes around and takes all young men to go off into war that they can’t take the sun because he broke his arm. It’s in the village gathers around is is oh, we’re so lucky. Your son broke his arm will see as a very truncated version of that because a lot

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Jason Mefford: Been in because we tend to always look at the negative side right you know that that I know that there’s probably many of you out there listening that, you know, rewind to three months ago.

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Jason Mefford: Well guess what, now you have more time to spend with your family. So are you grateful for the more time that you have to spend with your family and are you taking advantage of that opportunity.

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Jason Mefford: Or you still carrying forward that negative mindset and now instead of saying, I wish I could spend more time with my family. You’re saying, Oh my gosh, these people are driving me crazy. Let me go back to work. Right.

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Jason Mefford: You know, this is it’s a it’s a great opportunity actually last night. We did a little zoom call with some of our family over in Australia because our niece had a birthday yesterday.

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Jason Mefford: Well, she couldn’t have a birthday party. And so instead of just, you know, some of the family in Australia, having a party with her a dinner with her.

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Jason Mefford: We had everybody on from all over the world, actually, you know, spent an hour talking on a zoom call. Yeah. Now that’s an opportunity we hadn’t done that before. It’s not that we couldn’t have done it.

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Jason Mefford: But the situation wasn’t such that we thought, hey, maybe we should all get on a video call together now going forward. Again, that’s an opportunity, it’s an opportunity for us to reconnect.

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Jason Mefford: Going forward, maybe we’re going to do more of that as well, which again is one of these opportunities that you have anytime there’s a such a situation like this that happens.

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Jason Mefford: And so at this point you can decide, are there things about your daily routine that you want to change if there are now is a great opportunity to change them.

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Jason Mefford: But, you know, Kathy, like you said, If you already had these good routines. You need to keep those going as well because if those things were helping you in the past are going to help you now as well. So continue to do

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kathygruver: We will do will do a different episode on adaptability. But, I mean, we are all having to pivot.

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kathygruver: I had a virtual cocktail party with girlfriends from high school last night. We’ve never done that. There was nothing like you said, with your family. There’s nothing that would have stopped us previously from doing that.

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kathygruver: Very a lot of people losing their mind. So, but what does that balance point at some point the pendulum is going to swing back to that center point.

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kathygruver: And when we come through this, it’s going to be a new normal. And we’re going to get to choose which of these things we keep doing

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kathygruver: Do we have a weekly zoom with our family, do we keep cocktail parties going virtually with people all over the world.

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kathygruver: Do we have an hour of dedicated family time a day or two hours or three hours. You know, I think we’re going to have choices to make, when this is all over of what of this buffet of

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kathygruver: Shit, and good stuff that we’ve been thrown in the last couple weeks. What do we get to pull from that that we want to hang on to. So I think that’s we’re gonna have to come to that place of balance of what do we want to keep in our lives. Yeah.

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Jason Mefford: Well, and you have the choice. So, you know, again, this is a great opportunity for you to actually start doing some of that stuff. Right.

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Jason Mefford: So what are we talking about today. What are some things right, you know, if you don’t you don’t remember, try to do a little recap here for people. Right. So again, you know, many of you may be kind of stuck in your mind right now.

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Jason Mefford: Either you know, write it down, talk it out with us to yourself or to somebody else, because that actually helps you become more conscious

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kathygruver: And that helps you vent out those emotions. You’re not just stuffing them and hanging on to them so relying on family and friends for support. I mean, that’s all they have is time right now to give you

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kathygruver: So reach out and tap into that. The other thing is keep writing stuff down know what you want. Write it down.

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kathygruver: Making sure you’re sticking to your routine and trying to find that place of balance. You know, we can still step outside and take a deep breath.

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kathygruver: I know around the country, a lot of Parks and beaches and things are starting to close, which I think so unfortunate because you know there’s a park within walking distance from the house, and that’s where we’ve been going and if they close that that’s going to be a bummer. I get it.

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kathygruver: Keep it as normal as possible. Moving into this new normal. So yeah, I think it was a was a smattering of things today, but I think we at least kicked off some tidbits of tips that will help people get through this a little bit better.

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Jason Mefford: Yeah, cuz you know, again, like you said, if you’ve been saying you’ve been wanting to do something.

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Jason Mefford: Then do it. So I know a lot of you listening are like, Oh, I wish I could exercise more. Well, now you have the opportunity

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Jason Mefford: And it’s like, Okay, whatever. You can still get outside, you can still do some of these things, you know, prison is a mindset kind of thing anyway. Yeah.

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Jason Mefford: You can still socialize.

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kathygruver: Country and we’re having this conversation with you all right now. So, yeah.

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kathygruver: Yes. And once again, we’ve blown

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Jason Mefford: But really take advantage of this time, don’t be that person who just doesn’t want to get out of bed and just pulls their head up over their covers

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Jason Mefford: Because if you get out of that if you do those things.

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Jason Mefford: And you’re developing yourself during this time when we get back to the new normal. You’re going to be way further ahead of everybody else that was just stuck in bed.

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kathygruver: And then you’ll have a choice.

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Jason Mefford: And you’ll have a choice. Okay, excellent.

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kathygruver: All right, I am Kathy Gruber. I can be reached at Kathy Griffin calm.

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Jason Mefford: And I’m Jason method I can be reached at Jason method calm and we’ll catch you on a future episode of the fire and earth podcast. See, yeah.

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Yeah.

In this #fireandearthpodcast episode we are truly honored to speak with Freddy Jacquin, Internationally Acclaimed Hypnotherapist, Author, Speaker & Hypnosis Trainer, who is one of the top hypnotists in the world and has helped over 30,000 clients.

Most of us are walking around around in trance already, so we might as well use hypnosis as a way to achieve freedom from perceived limitation, fear, habitual behavior and pain. We discuss tapping into emotion, cutting out the fluff and ceremony, Freddy’s “thank protocol”, and how to get right to the point without any BS.

You’ll even see Freddy work with Kathy and Jason during the episode to show how easy it can be to use the power of hypnosis to improve your life, and anyone can do it if you want to change.

Learn more about Freddy at: https://freddyjacquin.com/

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To access the online hypnosis training mentioned during the episode: https://www.jacquinhypnosisacademy.com/

To access the World Quit Smoking program Freddy mentioned during the episode: https://www.worldquitsmoking.com/

Transcript

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Jason Mefford: Welcome everybody to another episode of the fire and earth podcast, I’m your co host Jason Medford

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Kathy Gruver: And I’m Kathy gruver and we are so excited to have yet another amazing guest is another good friend of mine from the hypnotherapy world. I know we’re tapping every hypnotherapist we can not to make a tapping EFT joke, along with hypnosis.

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Kathy Gruver: Anybody that knows what that is is like, oh, that was good. Okay. So, my dear friend jack when he’s gonna share everything he knows in 25 minutes so okay thank you so much for being on the show. It’s such an honor to have you.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: lost me.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: What is that there’s a story going around or it was true, but I knew nothing about hypnosis and us up my excuses. I was single, at the time I was out of the friends.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: And we ended up going back to his place with a couple of girls and the conversation went around to the normal thing. What do you do for a living.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: And because I had a couple of beers. The first thing that came to mind was on the hypnotist. And so she went through and I’ve never hit the size anyone my life.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: hypnotizing saying about it’s all, it’s just the first thing that came out in the test you do when you’ve been so she. So can you give me an answer. Cool. So, can

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FREDDY JACQUIN: Frames. You know, so anyway, so I just said. So I said, she said, or Golden Dawn. So I said, Okay. Close your eyes.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: And I must have seen something on TV. I said, you know, like, your eyes are getting heavier. They include their stock, you know, you can try it out, poof on a completely glued together and me. I was expecting to go, Oh, you’re not a hypnotist. But no, she went oh

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FREDDY JACQUIN: Let me, let me know. She can arise, right. So now I’m stuck because I what I didn’t know that was going to advertiser until I have no idea how to get around this stuff.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: So anyway, I just said, you know, no matter counter through your eyes loud. You’ll feel great. You will Otter best man. Well, whether it was at the time 123 eyes. Open your eyes. And it was just fascinating to me. And from then I just thought I gotta learn how to do stuff.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: Because I never knew anything about it until that point.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: And so then, of course, came up, I, I’ve been in America came back and I saw this course advertise it was wasn’t very good.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: But I did it. And it got me in there like Jason was saying. Once you really your fascination of it and it’s a rabbit hole. We just got to keep learning. Yeah, and then

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FREDDY JACQUIN: I started and I just set up a place, so I didn’t quit smoking. And at that time, because I had another business. I was in sales. So I’m on sales company and

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FREDDY JACQUIN: The advert and I still need to buy ad smoke question mark one. A quick question mark hypnosis one session I time it was 39 pounds. So the guy was 39 pounds guaranteed if you don’t quit on charging. What have you got to lose, but the habit. Right. So it’s a great app.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: Yeah, I mean, in on time and my way of thinking was like never times one person. I wanted to get the ties.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: And then when I was a hypnotize to I thought it ties a room full of people. So I’ve got into it and sizing 200 people at a time in 2006 I saw 5000 smokers in one year.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: In one year, five years in groups of 200 people. And over the course of time, I’ve been doing this. I’ve seen either 25,000 people for smoking.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: So I know it’s but it’s all the other things that, as I said, I just love it and I if you can advertise when you advertise around for the people, for the first time.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: And I was so poor at the time are still using scripts, but I knew enough to say, okay, we’re ready to go take a breath and close your eyes, please feel the floor, take a breath and close your eyes. Co sponsor eyes were closed out came

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FREDDY JACQUIN: Top and there’s like 60 people in a row. Yes, that’s great. So anyway, I love this innocence and you’ve seen you’ve watched me present. I love this stuff.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: And over the years in my way of thinking of how we work and how we, the things that happen have changed. I used to think people came into my room and they were there. Tell me what their problem was

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FREDDY JACQUIN: I’d come up with some kind of strategy or they say what I wanted to do a quick doing i’d listened to run on feedback to hypnotize me feedback I now think we’re already in trance. I think we’re already walking around in trance, or beer and negative, you know,

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FREDDY JACQUIN: Detrimental trauma, so I can’t quit smoking lose weight can’t do this. Can’t do that. And so really now I see a different way. I think all got to do is

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FREDDY JACQUIN: A bitesize them take them out of the negative transfer in and leave them in a very positive for any tracks. You know that’s that’s the way it is and it’s no longer complex, you know, we were just talking before we came on air about the power of emotion.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: And once once we understand how quickly we can influence people once we send them in to create an emotion. It’s amazing. I’m going to do you Jason right now. You ready

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Jason Mefford: Oh boy. Here we go.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: You get that as well. Kathy, do you like

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FREDDY JACQUIN: Olly okay do this just just place your hand out in front of you like the show.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: Okay, now look at me in the camera just look at me in the camera. I think about like think about a lot of you feel, for she feels for you.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: I feel that love right now and as she fell in love with notes that hands hanging all by itself.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: Imagine now there’s nothing you can do about that when you realize there’s nothing to do about it. Jason can try and get it down, but it was even higher.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: I didn’t want to pretend pushing hard on it and it goes even I knew, Tony, you’re strong man push even harder wanted to go up to the ceiling. Now, how do you target it down.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: Push even harder because even higher, there’s something strange going on. How do you try and get on down or the other one’s going to go

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FREDDY JACQUIN: pushing harder for the other one coming off the off the table. Now, there it goes. But I hit retires or even a chance is that even your arm push even harder because even

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FREDDY JACQUIN: At this point in time, guys. Then we could operate on an arm and a leg, because it’s no longer your arm, and I’m going to click my fingers your armor drift down your eyes are closed for a split second. When I open, you’ll probably laugh out loud.

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Jason Mefford: I mean, I do, I feel that warmth in my

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Jason Mefford: In my area now.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: It’s no longer complex tonight you know and like what we were saying earlier, before we came on air. Now we’ve got zoom. We can work all over the world, there are no limits.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: It’s just phenomenal. You know, I live in this little tiny little town they thousand people and and I sort of saying to Jason earlier, you know, it’s seaside town Nolan stressed. If I relied on making a living in this town.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: Let me do this with you, Kathy. I’m going to show your work on. So in so anyone else watching this can say I I take people to transcend so I like I like this and I think you’ll like it. Okay, are you ready when they

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FREDDY JACQUIN: Three inches from your face back yes it now just relax your hand forward sides facing away from you.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: Look at a spot or a line on the back of your hand. Just one line one spot.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: And I’d like you Kathy’s unconscious mind when it’s ready to allow the most profound statement gnosis.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: To start to turn that hand toward our face. I didn’t want to do anything. Cathy just focus on the spot in the back your hand.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: And when the unconscious mind is ready to allow Kathy to drift in the most profound state of hypnosis, but I can start selling their hands. Water face so I can feel his finger starting to move now Kathy.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: That’s right, that’s right hand says what’s your face automatically. Now, that’s why you can try it still find lose even quicker now.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: When your fingers touch your face, your eyes will close your body relax you will stay in that chair, you will not fall out the chair, but your body relax your mind. Relax going to go into the most profound wonderful state of hypnosis. Get ready.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: Only as quickly as Kathy’s unconscious minds ready to allow that wonderful feeling. That’s right. There you go.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: That’s right. All the way in deeper, deeper, deeper down now. And once again, think about the people you love. Kathy people love you.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: All the people that you’ve helped with your understanding your love and your skill.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: You know, think about those wonderful people out there now living their lives in a better way. Because of you, and let that remind you of just are loved you on how fabulous you are as a woman as a being a therapist.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: To spaces, but I love that flood your body with our light not love.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: I’m going to count to three, your handle drift down your eyes open, but that feeling of love and freedom. It’s going to stay with you.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: And you’re going to understand just how fabulous. You are one thing, wonderful to to achieve all the things you want to achieve in your life and do it brilliantly three and drifting down is opening financing incredible now.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: You know all the things we were taught over the years about this thing important and that being important how people in trance that’s gone for me now. You know, if I can create an emotion. It’s very easy. I can ask, Jason. The back alley and I can create that emotion that

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Jason Mefford: Kind of like a scary leap but but to me it just shows people to that, you know, everybody that’s listening. Hey, we can we can take these risks. Take this jump. And I mean, all kinds of things can happen.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: You know, obviously believe if people can hear me. Yeah, I don’t care if it’s a stadium with hundred thousand people if they’re there. And I want to challenge you know this Catholic. Yeah, that’s the criteria, you know, do you really want to change. Are you ready to change. You know, I think.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: And that threshold where you’re ready to make those changes.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: Because if you are, and you’re listening to me and you’re willing to gains this that I have no doubt, doesn’t matter who’s listening. How many people are they going to go into hypnosis and if they’re there for that change, they’re going to get the change. So there are no limits.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: And and in some respects in a big group. There’s a group dynamic because, well, you know, often have someone who’s thinking they’re sitting there thinking I might have. I think I’ve emphasized, and I look up look round robin is 200 people sit there and I go, go straight back.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: It’s just, it’s just phenomenal.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: But you know, I just think we haven’t even scratched the surface of what we can do with hypnosis and hypnotherapy and and the more we learn the easier it becomes and the more we get rid of what I call the fluff.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: You know, yeah, an hour of embedding loops and taking you on this journey and taking you back to me, East east. East best as far as I know, he said, always the best

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FREDDY JACQUIN: But the reason he said that because we were we were he picked me up from the airport. When I did a presentation in Toronto and he was he was he was going through some the thing that he wanted to get rid of. And he, you know, he’s the greatest in the world as part of Sir

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FREDDY JACQUIN: To just say, and I just said to him about it ever bother you, again, and it did.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: You know, providing I know exactly when that spiral emotionless I can give you a suggestion, that’s likely to bypass any resistance.

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Kathy Gruver: Right. Well, it’s a it’s so fascinating because I think so often our subconscious is right there wanting to help and this conscious part of ourselves doesn’t let it I was talking with a

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Kathy Gruver: Like she won’t even put on lingerie, and it was really bothering her and what she wanted to be more adventurous. And I said, Well, why do you think you’re like that. She goes, I don’t know. And I said, Yes, you do. And she goes, yeah, and she tells me the entire story.

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Kathy Gruver: So the for the entire night I realized anytime. She’d say, I don’t know.

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Kathy Gruver: All I had to say was, yes you do. And she’d give me this great answer. She just wasn’t aware of it. At first she was either embarrassed about her. She was covering it up or the you know her. She just

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Kathy Gruver: He had so much trouble working with. And so we ended up doing that with the rock star in Australia. Have you had a really difficult client or situation where you’re like nothing’s working, what do I do with this person.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: I think it’s about being so let’s be honest, it sounds awesome.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: But you know, I think a lot of people think we’re born, we will not bring

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FREDDY JACQUIN: absolute opposite, sir, and more intelligent, the briar, they are, the easier to go into it and I success up last what I find I mean I do that, I’m not knocking this place in Wales cat called an athlete. I did a group quit smoking down in once and I start with a finger lock.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: So much control, just do this through the whole group with the finger along and I say, Just follow my instructions so i i say copy me and then I’m looking at a river that people saying, My thing is I’m coming together.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: Because, you know, they’re not going to get it. And it’s just, you know, so they’re not alone sequences resistance. I saw

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FREDDY JACQUIN: There are no poor clients who are poor hypnotist you know

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FREDDY JACQUIN: When people put it on wave is not made is the client.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: You know, I think that’s bad. I mean, I just think some people get it. Some people don’t. Some people are ready and some people don’t.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: And sometimes I asked that question everyone. Are you ready to quit. Are you ready to do this and do you want to do it quite often. So no, I don’t want to quit. But my watch, watch.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: What doctor wants me to quit. So we’ll come back when you live. Yeah. You know when you’re ready to change because you can make people do stuff. I had a guy once came to see me.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: He said, I want to quit smoking. So I’ve had a kidney removed. He said, from cancer. The doctors have said.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: I’ll continue to smile calm. I have another five or six years, but stop smoking. I could live to all days.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: I think said this is going to be a challenge. I said, it’s going to be a challenge. I’m going to lose because I’m not here to challenge you. I’m not here to to fight with your argue with you. I’m here, this is, this is, you know,

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FREDDY JACQUIN: Collaboration. We’re going to do this together. You know, it’s not about me enforcing my word on you and it’s what I said all my clients. Now you know what you have more choice not let’s just

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FREDDY JACQUIN: You know, say, can you make excited just hate cigarettes. I said well at the moment you’re smoking 20 cigarettes a day or whatever it is, or you don’t feel you have a choice.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: You’re lying, where he wants to know if I was to make it so you can’t smoke. It’s not no choice it be me making you delegate

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FREDDY JACQUIN: When you leave here today and the need for cigarettes and you’re there with your kids and someone offers you a cigarette and you smile and say, no thanks. You can take the credit.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: It’s about saying, I’m ready. And I’m willing to work with you. I’d like to think that that’s I you know you’ve met me, you know, out of the presentation we’re in a presentation, you know, at the bar with no different. I might think I’m no different than I am right now speaking to you. Yeah.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: That’s what people get, you know, they know I wanted for him, and I’ll put a little thing out post the other day. This thanks protocol. It’s a photo of you. You ready, what

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FREDDY JACQUIN: I had a dream about Tom Hanks, believe it or not, and in this dream and he might have heard this Jace, but I was I was hypnotizing Tom Hanks.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: With whether whether the induction. That’s not being used yet so I invented it in my dream. So I put this on Facebook. Now I’m going to invent it.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: So someone I said if you’re if you’re interested in learning this but whatever it was solid put the name Tom Hanks but T Hanks instead of Tom Hanks would spell. Thanks.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: So the whole whole point of this thing is about self appreciation self love. That’s the thanks protocol, but it come from a couple of things. I’ll tell you quickly. For years I’ve been saying to my students when you’re working with someone

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FREDDY JACQUIN: Just run this loop in your mind. I care about you and I want you to be well I said if you feel it’s appropriate. Right. And I say it, but you should at least hold it in your heart and thinking when you’re working with me.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: So I’ve been saying this for a long time and using myself my clients that I believe they pick it up.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: If you’re, you know, some people come into this. They’re not often people come in saying this is a good way of learning some money.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: And therefore you’re thinking about is the person your chair and how much money you can add they’re going to pick that up. I don’t care what you say.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: If, when you’re in that room. All you’re thinking about is, how can I help this person I care about. You’re going to be well they will pick that up as well.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: Yeah, yeah, which is a lot of sort of forgiveness in my mind, but I heard about us. So the thanks protocol is this. It’s you gain to you get into this state, you know, the hypnotic state, but I do this for I get out of bed in the morning, you know, my body still asleep. I am awake.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: And pitch anyway. Either way, the whole nother part of things, great, I love it. But the thanks for the call was pretty much based on these words. So I just think when we’re working with people.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: And if they’re feeling that from you. Then I get into it with you. You know, I, that’s how I feel. And that’s why I think I have good results. And I do it, but hold on your mom. Okay, that you wanted to be well

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Jason Mefford: Yeah, well, because it seems like. I mean, I’ve got all kinds of questions going through my head right now. Right. I mean, I could talk to you for hours. Do

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Jason Mefford: Thinking versus feeling right thinking is more prefrontal cortex conscious kind of stuff you know emotion and feeling is more in the subconscious area.

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Jason Mefford: So to me, you know, intellectually, it makes perfect sense, whether it’s, you know, a hypnotic induction, whether it’s it’s feeling emotions for a loved one, whatever it is, helps us kind of crossover into that subconscious area where we can actually do the work. Right.

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Jason Mefford: So it’s interesting that you’ve come up with so many different ways because even the. Thank you. Right. You’re, you’re feeling grateful grateful as an emotion, the more grateful, you’re feeling, the more we can kind of tap into that. So to me again. It’s kind of like

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Jason Mefford: The intellectual people were easier to actually, you know, get into hypnotic state because, you know, for me, this has always been and still is one of the things I’m trying to work on.

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Jason Mefford: Because I’m a very analytical left brain kind of person. I’m usually always in my consciousness, I’m trying, more and more

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Jason Mefford: I understand why they’re saying now. That makes sense, that’s bringing in the other emotion that’s doing all this, you know, but, you know, like you said, I guess I just, I just need to let it

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FREDDY JACQUIN: Just. Well, that’s why. I’ll be happy if I be first session. At least I always use metaphor.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: Because metaphor is an easy way of getting the person that other on my, you know, they think they’re concentrate on the story thinking, but you’d be thinking, why is he talking about horses.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: Like you’re talking about this or talking about that. And at that point in time where your conscious mind is trying to figure it out your unconscious mind is going here. Come on.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: And, you know, one guy said to me once in I said if you just hypnotize someone got a newspaper and read a paragraph at a newspaper, the person where things must be a reason for this probably find some meeting that relates to that.

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Kathy Gruver: During my first wedding. We had all this ritual and all these very sort of pagan things and we jumped a broom. At the end it was a very fun ceremony marriage didn’t last very long. But the wedding was cool.

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Kathy Gruver: So I was thirsty. So he grabbed water and he gave me the water and he drank the water and we just drink some water and at the end of the assembly people like

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Kathy Gruver: Because there were so many other things they didn’t know they weren’t familiar with is they thought that was part of the ceremony of US quenching each other’s first and about. Yeah. Okay. Sure. We did that thing. Yeah, that was totally plan.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: Take your time without uniting and while he’s giving you tie back taking a bell. That’s the kind of man he is. He’s incredible, but he did a thing at the last night last year year before the

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FREDDY JACQUIN: The UK hypnosis convention. But he said, so you’ve got to go out. So he wants to be hypnotized police he got a bottle of water. And he said, This is not, it was a summer first flash your eyes feel heavy second spots closed on third splash going to go into hypnosis. So you went very

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FREDDY JACQUIN: I’m like, I wrote it. I think that might quit smoking production is out there somewhere. But my son said, Why don’t you write as one for the public, this, this is for hypnotherapist the learner. Do I do. Why you do one for the public, like the Freddie carbon computer

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FREDDY JACQUIN: Well, the way I work is so simple. I wrote this, this thing was about 5000 words couldn’t call it a book. And I thought, What can I charge for it. I’ve done an audio with it. But I thought what I would just put it out there for free, you know, and so

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FREDDY JACQUIN: Quit smoking.com right so I plan on Facebook, you know, I’m recording this thing and it’s out there for free. I’m doing as honestly project. So anyone wants to do it. They don’t have to pay, but you can you can donate 10 quid to children’s charities Children’s Cancer.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: So because I’ve got 2000 people in my facebook group. People said, you want it recorded in French, when it was born in Spanish. So now it’s in about 1215 languages, including American Sign Language. It’s just amazing.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: Wow. How many people got on board, it’s out there that quit smoking.com it’s free. You go on you download the pamphlet you download the audio only if you quit. You can pay 10 quid. That’s all we’re asking and every penny goes to children’s cancer charities.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: Because now people are got on board. We got Lori haven’t recorded in American female. We got Michael Scott Brian Grossberg from LA is a lawyer today’s recording in American

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Kathy Gruver: Assholes. Literally, I walked into a conference in the first two people. I came across were just jerks.

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Kathy Gruver: So many hypnotist who were just into power trips and into ego it into and the more I’ve gotten to know the amazing people that are in this profession.

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Kathy Gruver: Are the ones that are the greatest you and Mike mendell and Ken and Jason and, you know, like all these people that are so phenomenal. They are so generous.

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Kathy Gruver: And it’s so nice to have split that because you guys are some of the tops in the world. And you’re also the most generous and I realized those two guys I met at first. You were just egomaniac jerks. They’re not very good.

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Kathy Gruver: They were just covering up for sale. It’s like the little guy in the big truck.

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Kathy Gruver: Well, what are you at, what are you at now. And everybody could kind of dropped down to like either zero or one or two. And there was one guy, Daniel, who, I think, and only gotten down to a four.

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Kathy Gruver: And Freddie said will head back to your seat and when you realize your pain free. You’re going to come up up front. I’m gonna cry it out and say, Friday, I love you.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: It went down to two. And I said, Okay, we’ll go back to see I’d only be five minutes or 10 minutes from now when you suddenly realize every ounce that pain is gone. And when it does, you’ll come up and say, pretty. I love you. I don’t even know why I said it is not worth visiting Canada.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: And it sounds like a tractor.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: I don’t have a t shirt with you. I love you for it on the front and whatever it was on the back.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: But, you know, amazing. It’s just joy. I mean,

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FREDDY JACQUIN: Yeah, it’s just people are just so nice and everyone wants the best for everybody. You know, I just love it there. I mean, it’s, it’s, um, yeah, it’s great, but

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FREDDY JACQUIN: I don’t know why he can’t be generous to this, I find it hard, and it sounds pressing say heart to even ask for money for doing this work.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: Because I don’t even call it work.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: I say are qualified as a therapist in the early 90s and I haven’t worked since I saw

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Kathy Gruver: Oh my god. We’ve once again blown even pass our half hour of time for oh my god front of your amazing. So you’ve got a new book coming out that a bunch of hypnotist. And thank you so much for letting me be a part of that.

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Kathy Gruver: Are contributing stories. And what’s the best website to reach you and tell me that smoking site again.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: This month, so I will quit smoking.com

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Kathy Gruver: Cool. Beautiful.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: They hit the therapy.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: People seem to love that and we bought this this collaboration with your now hold

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FREDDY JACQUIN: Yeah lovely stories from people in Europe, it’s going to be on maybe June or July.

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Kathy Gruver: Yeah. Beautiful. And what’s, what’s the best surgeon general website to reach you.

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Kathy Gruver: Pretty jacqueline.com okay here was

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FREDDY JACQUIN: The only other things on this new project, which is out for free. The

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FREDDY JACQUIN: The immune system booster MP3 is going to be on there you know the the other stuffs on the quit smoking sign all those links are on there pretty gentlemen.com is dead simple.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: Yeah, as I might

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Kathy Gruver: Though you’re incredible and your. I love that everyone is so generous with their time and their knowledge and Jason and I did a show on

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Kathy Gruver: Sometimes the learning happens in the bar, not the classroom and that came out of the UK hypnosis convention, because

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Kathy Gruver: You said we all sit around and we share knowledge and we share stories and you know it’s not always about the classroom. It’s about just being in life and being present with people so

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Kathy Gruver: I so appreciate you. You’re amazing you’re suddenly

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FREDDY JACQUIN: You feel fabulous.

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Jason Mefford: Looks great to me.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: Journey you’re laying down like there’s no way I

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Jason Mefford: Know I’m going down the rabbit hole with everybody else. I’ll have to be in Las Vegas and

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Kathy Gruver: Everything we don’t

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Jason Mefford: I wanted to acknowledge you for it because you know as we’re going through talking about it and you talked about the the thank protocol right and and the end, the term that you said you know I care about you and want you to be well yeah and

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Jason Mefford: You totally embody that

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Jason Mefford: I mean, I mean, again, you can

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Jason Mefford: I can feel your energy clear across the pond right of just how much you care.

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Jason Mefford: You know what, what you’re doing and how you’re trying to make the world a better place. So

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Jason Mefford: Totally love you, man. I mean this is just what what you’re doing does impact life because you know even even that story. You know about trying to reduce pain at the conference that you

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Jason Mefford: Were talking about everybody has pain.

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Kathy Gruver: Yeah yeah

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FREDDY JACQUIN: And and Kathy will tell you that room. We said anyone in pain, stand up.

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Kathy Gruver: Everybody stand up. See

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FREDDY JACQUIN: How many people are in pain, you know, emotional, physical when we ran this thing takes five minutes. The arrow technique.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: Yeah, which is what people are normally for is so much more to me than that.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: But they still 90 for that when I’d say if you

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FREDDY JACQUIN: paint color drastically reduce it down when men join a room, sit back down again. It’s amazing, you know, and I will have the ability to do it.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: You have the ability to do that, you know, we have a training platform, if anyone wants to go to is dead change. I think it’s $47 you can go on there.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: But all of my stuff rolling my son Anthony stuff. So I think I’ve always given it while you’re still can’t figure out, but you can download the arrow products on there. You can download my quit smoking products on there, all this stuff we did with my van del x rays on there.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: And I think if you’re interested. Hypnosis really worth. They’re not trying to sell it.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: I think it’s really worth doing.

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FREDDY JACQUIN: Oh yeah, and hopefully anyone listening to this watching this

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FREDDY JACQUIN: Open I’ll meet you in person someday maybe the other guy, a New Orleans or somewhere and

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Jason Mefford: I love New Orleans.

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Kathy Gruver: Oh my god, I want to talk to you all day. But we have to go. Okay, so everybody

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FREDDY JACQUIN: And thanks for having me on.

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Kathy Gruver: Oh, you’re so great.

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Kathy Gruver: Yeah, I’m Kathy group, I can be reached at Kathy Gruber calm.

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Jason Mefford: And I’m Jason method I can be reached at Jason method calm, so go out unlock your potential and we’ll catch you on the next episode of the fire and earth podcasts. So, yeah.

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